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acgclone said:
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You must have missed the Diallo saga
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You mean the phenom who suited up for KU last season. Yes, it was a mess, but he did play. Just wasn't good or experienced enough to crack the starting line up. I think CSP and the rest would be just pleased as punch if the NCAA let him play out the season after missing the first 5-10 games like Diallo.
 
CYEATHAWK said:
You mean the phenom who suited up for KU last season. Yes, it was a mess, but he did play. Just wasn't good or experienced enough to crack the starting line up. I think CSP and the rest would be just pleased as punch if the NCAA let him play out the season after missing the first 5-10 games like Diallo.
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Two totally different issues. They aren't even comparable.
 
It is interesting that Prohm mentioned maybe Malou having to sit one year. That to me implies some sort of benefits problem. If it was just a clock issue they wouldn't make him sit. Could be tied to his time with the guy from ABCD. But if that's the case I think once the NCAA sees that guy was a criminal and was a scum bag that they will do the right thing. The clock issue is the more dangerous one. If he went to college in Australia his time could be up. However, it does appear the places he played were high schools as far as I can tell. Hopefully it's not a case of him not being able to get his two year degree in time cause good lord that should be easy.

I do think he will play at ISU. He might not win the first round but on appeal they can take all things into account and this kid was used by a couple of shady people and he didn't know any better. Even if it's only for one year I'll take it.
 
dtISU said:
Wait...is this the Jackson, Diallo or Malou thread?
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Sigmapolis said:
I know none of you are NCAA compliance officers (I think), but, a question semi-related to the Malou situation about how something would be treated.

I went to high school in Boone. While there, I semi-predated the "AP revolution" to college prep courses where you take a class to take a test to receive or not receive college credit. We had AP classes for Spanish and, I think, some sort of composition or literature but not for other humanities, social sciences, sciences, or mathematics. At that time in Iowa, if your high school did not offer a class, you could "cross-enroll" or something and take it at DMACC for free/the state would reimburse you for the cost of the class (not sure which, but same result). Since the high school did not offer American history or true calculus (only a wussy pre-calc class), I went ahead and took them at DMACC in Boone. Easy enough to go to DMACC at 7:30AM for calculus and history in the morning and head back to school for band and afternoon classes and activities, right? Particularly after I was able to drive myself around.

Getting it done before college, where my time got pinched, with a really good instructor in a small class in Boone, was one of the better decisions that I've ever made. Made that eventual economics degree so much easier. To my question...

I had some non-scholarship or partial-scholarship offers for track and cross country (mostly the small, private schools throughout Iowa and like South Dakota and things, nothing fancy) coming out of high school, as well, though I declined them. This was because (a) sick of running, didn't even do track my senior year, partially because I needed the time for calculus and (b) I would rather go to a big research university, just down the road, like ISU. I could live at home and commute that way, too, and this was back when ISU tuition was super-duper cheap prior to the recession. Graduating *during* the recession was another matter...

So what would the NCAA have thought about me taking 6-10ish credits from DMACC for two years to build up college credit in an era before AP was as ubiquitous as it is now? Would they have, hypothetically, stripped a year of eligibility from me for still being in high school and the age of a high school student yet, at the same time, taking credits from a junior college? Not saying this is directly the situation with Malou, who has went through a million more twists and turns, but I just wonder how they factor something like this into their requirements.
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They wouldn't have cared. It's obvious you were still in high school because you hadn't graduated yet. That's not how ones 5 to play 4 clock starts.
 
Honest question about this 'Clock' issue people are talking about with Malou. When I was in HS, as a Jr I was able to attend UNI for classes that were not offered at my HS and they counted toward both HS credits and GPA in addition to UNI Credits and GPA.

I took 3 credit hours my first semester as a JR, 3 credit hours my 2nd semester my Jr year, and then when I was a SR I took Humanities 1 & 2 first and second semester which were each 4 credit hour classes.

Does this mean that if I would have played sports in my college career, my clock would have 'started' when I was a Jr. in HS? I really don't understand this whole discussion as I don't think there is anyway that could be the case.
 
Could someone please list the places and years he has attended HS/Prep/JUCO? I've had a hard time keeping up. According to the rules, does he actually have a legitimate argument for eligibility at ISU?

I know how the NCAA is messed up with some of their rulings, but aside from that I want to know if we have a bunch of homers on here saying he deserves at least a year, or if it's a legit case. Do we need to get this out to Jay Bilas to use his public propaganda against the NCAA? Like he has done for Diallo and others in the past.
 
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tzjung said:
Honest question about this 'Clock' issue people are talking about with Malou. When I was in HS, as a Jr I was able to attend UNI for classes that were not offered at my HS and they counted toward both HS credits and GPA in addition to UNI Credits and GPA.

I took 3 credit hours my first semester as a JR, 3 credit hours my 2nd semester my Jr year, and then when I was a SR I took Humanities 1 & 2 first and second semester which were each 4 credit hour classes.

Does this mean that if I would have played sports in my college career, my clock would have 'started' when I was a Jr. in HS? I really don't understand this whole discussion as I don't think there is anyway that could be the case.
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Those wouldn't matter since you were still in high school (I think). Applies to courses taken after HS graduation.
 
rholtgraves said:
It is interesting that Prohm mentioned maybe Malou having to sit one year. That to me implies some sort of benefits problem. If it was just a clock issue they wouldn't make him sit. Could be tied to his time with the guy from ABCD. But if that's the case I think once the NCAA sees that guy was a criminal and was a scum bag that they will do the right thing. The clock issue is the more dangerous one. If he went to college in Australia his time could be up. However, it does appear the places he played were high schools as far as I can tell. Hopefully it's not a case of him not being able to get his two year degree in time cause good lord that should be easy.

I do think he will play at ISU. He might not win the first round but on appeal they can take all things into account and this kid was used by a couple of shady people and he didn't know any better. Even if it's only for one year I'll take it.
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Problem is, is he gunna try? If it's true, the NCAA is going to have a decision by May 24th, then I'm sure it'll be no, he's not eligible. So does Malou take the chance, skip this year's draft, thus miss being able to play in the D League, and go through the NCAA appeal process? Or does he decide it's not worth the risk of missing basketball for a whole year?
 
HardcoreClone said:
Could someone please list the places and years he has attended HS/Prep/JUCO? I've had a hard time keeping up. According to the rules, does he actually have a legitimate argument for eligibility at ISU?

I know how the NCAA is messed up with some of their rulings, but aside from that I want to know if we have a bunch of homers on here saying he deserves at least a year, or if it's a legit case. Do we need to get this out to Jay Bilas to use his public propaganda against the NCAA? Like he has done for Diallo and others in the past.
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I'd also be interested in seeing an actual list with the years enrolled. The issue with Malou also has to do with the schools he attended, not just the amount of time. The "colleges" in Australia are not the same as here, and the whole ABCD prep is a cluster because it wasn't even legit. Malou has a few factors against him.

Has there been any other players from ABCD prep go on to play college?
 
Mods - please change thread title to "Thompsonclone" (name only thread, to keep with the usual CF naming convention).

TIA
 
Please, no more posts about college classes that you took in high school. Why? Because you were in high school.
 
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