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CyBri said:
Its an article describing the study genius. You can find the study from the article.
It describes how many people were interviewed, how many years it took place, and statistics to back it up. Not sure what more you want. It doesn't matter what I post. You could look up pro spanking studies and see as many as you wanted but your not interested in doing that. You have your mind made up before taking any other facts into consideration. I have already said that most children shouldn't be spanked. You have a narrow mind and this is all about you being right.
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"Genius"? You have to go to name-calling when an argument isn't going your way? Please, tell me more about your intellectual prowess...

The article provides no names of studies, citations, or anything else. Again, without citations, you can put whatever statistics or you want in an article and pass them off as correct. I'm not sure how that's hard to understand.

Let's go ahead and look at an example of an article in a science-based journal with citations that fully summarizes the thesis. This article has citations and more, and accurately describes the action plan that is patently recommended across the board for behavioral issues. I think you'll find a direct mention of non-aggressive strategem: http://www.ccbd.net/ccbd/publications/newsletter/new-item3/new-item5

And you know what? I do have a narrow mind, you're right. My mind is narrowed to think that, in a situation where there is a child and an adult trained in finding peaceful, non-violent solutions to conflict, that perhaps the adult should be the more level-headed, non-aggressive participant. I am focused on thinking that perhaps a grown-*** adult should act his age, and follow the dictums of his job. He broke the rules, he got fired. No amount of "oh, but the youth of America suck!" hand-wringing is going to change that he specifically and egregiously broke the rules.
 
Angie said:
I will say - your continued attempts to put words in my mouth, minimize science and psychology, and to change the subject are entertaining to watch. It's just flat-out poor debate tactic, but still amusing.
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Plenty of that going around in this thread.

(Not you, though)
 
bringmagicback said:
Successful person who has a great family, great job, takes care of themselves and others. Works 2 jobs sometimes over a 100 hours a week. Volunteers over 200 hours a year at various charities ect. church member, stop on the interstate to fix your flat, all around good guy.

Ya, lets pray these brats don't end up like me and others like me. I thank god my parents, teachers, police, leaders put me in my place every time I count my blessings.
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Such a good, upstanding church goer you end a post with "I hate you all"? Yeah, your rant makes you seem like a real swell guy.
 
bringmagicback said:
These kids need an *** whooping. Plain and simple. Until then its going to be more of the same. I know this gets said about every generation, but these high school kids today, I fear there is no hope. Actually I know there is no hope. Bunch of welfare babies taught that they can do whatever they want and get away with it. When Someone smacks them with some act right, its time to burn the city. You are all a bunch of ******* and raise your kids as a bunch of *******. ******* equal failures. "but bmb, you think she deserved to be assaulted" yes I do. Had she been given that punishment, and there was no video, no national outrage, next time she was told to do something, she would have done it. That's how you learn. I didn't misbehave in high school because our male teachers would f you up if you got to far out of line. The pussification of this country is unbearable.... What happens when these kids get into the workforce (lets be honest, its a life of welfare ahead of them)? Maybe this *** whooping could have changed her life around. Teach her to respect other people and act right. Nope, I guarantee in 20 years, she is still a **** up and a failure living off someone else. I hate you all.
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Love you, bro
 
ISUCubswin said:
Plenty of that going around in this thread.

(Not you, though)
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I do agree.

Maybe we should have two threads for every subject (especially in the Cave). One for people who know how to debate sans emotion, and then a second for the slapfight.
 
NorthCyd said:
Man who farts in church sits in own pew.
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Angie said:
"Genius"? You have to go to name-calling when an argument isn't going your way? Please, tell me more about your intellectual prowess...

The article provides no names of studies, citations, or anything else. Again, without citations, you can put whatever statistics or you want in an article and pass them off as correct. I'm not sure how that's hard to understand.

Let's go ahead and look at an example of an article in a science-based journal with citations that fully summarizes the thesis. This article has citations and more, and accurately describes the action plan that is patently recommended across the board for behavioral issues. I think you'll find a direct mention of non-aggressive strategem: http://www.ccbd.net/ccbd/publications/newsletter/new-item3/new-item5

And you know what? I do have a narrow mind, you're right. My mind is narrowed to think that, in a situation where there is a child and an adult trained in finding peaceful, non-violent solutions to conflict, that perhaps the adult should be the more level-headed, non-aggressive participant. I am focused on thinking that perhaps a grown-*** adult should act his age, and follow the dictums of his job. He broke the rules, he got fired. No amount of "oh, but the youth of America suck!" hand-wringing is going to change that he specifically and egregiously broke the rules.
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[h=2]Copyright (c) 2009 Akron Law Review
Akron Law Review[/h][h=1]COMMENT: THE SCIENCE AND STATISTICS BEHIND SPANKING SUGGEST THAT LAWS ALLOWING CORPORAL PUNISHMENT ARE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD[/h][h=3]2009[/h][h=2]Akron Law Review[/h][h=3]42 Akron L. Rev. 243[/h][h=4]Author[/h]Jason M. Fuller *

The study is on LexisNexis I don't have the time or the access right now to post it. Its a lot of pages so I think people who want to check it out can. What the article was is just a summary. I don't know what to tell you if you can't find it. But this isn't about you winning right smh
 
Angie said:
I do agree.

Maybe we should have two threads for every subject (especially in the Cave). One for people who know how to debate sans emotion, and then a second for the slapfight.
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Its laughable you made this comment
 
CyBri said:
Its laughable you made this comment
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Please indicate to me all of the places where I called names, made sad little attempts at attacks, or anything else. In fact, go ahead and showed me where I showed any emotion at all. I think you'll find that you dislike my comments simply because they are void of emotion.

I've simply trolled you with reason, because you're clearly far too wrapped up in this at a personal level. I happen to believe what I'm posting, but I'm posting it to show that you aren't using objectivity, reason, or research to back up your position. When you can't step back and have a rational conversation without getting aggressive, it makes you look stupid and childish...

...which, coincidentally, is parallel to the issue at hand. The cop, a grown adult, couldn't simply step back and deal with the situation with reason and calm intellect. No matter how provoked, it's his job to remain aloof. He failed at this basic tenet of his job.
 
I find this article interesting:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/st...red-deputy-at-sc-school/ar-BBmD3GJ?li=AAa0dzB

- USA Today article claiming around 100 students walked out of classes today to protest the firing of their SRO.

- Both black and white students were a part of the walk out.

- First credible article/site that I've seen (seen lots of blogs the last day or so) claiming that grabbing the student was alright, and it wasn't until he threw her across the floor that he actually caused trouble. And this is from the chief that many are praising for firing the SRO (which, again, I don't necessarily disagree with the firing of the SRO)

Basically, here's my chain of events:

- Teacher asks girl for phone, girl refuses
- Teacher writes girl up, asks girl for phone. She refuses.
- Teacher calls administration.
- Administration asks for phone. She refuses.
- Administration calls for SRO.
- SRO asks 5-6 times for the girl to get up. She refuses.
- SRO grabs the girl.
- Girl throws punches, presumably to defend herself
- SRO throws girl back in desk
- SRO lifts girl up and throws her across the room.

So, I have eliminated the theory that she was body slammed. Actually, I never believed she was body slammed.

I believe, and this is coming from this article and the video, he flipped her and her desk intentionally, which probably allows him to keep his job IF he doesn't throw her across the room.

The question I would like to know about this man, and would prove guilt or innocence, is...was he planning on flipping her over before he felt like she was attacking/throwing punches? If so, he needs to lose his badge/any chance of being in law enforcement. However, if he felt she was trying to cause harm, then the flip was no big deal.
 
All you people are mean. I am nice....like all corporate news readers are. We are astonished by your behavior and the comments on this page show that the perpetual war on meanness must continue.....with more funding.
 
I think this conversation can pretty much be boiled down to those who believe violence is an acceptable and effective way to solve problems and those who don't. I'm with the latter. "Those who live by the sword, die by the sword." Disagree if you want, but if you value violence (especially against children) I respect you very, very little.
 
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Peter said:
I think this conversation can pretty much be boiled down to those who believe violence is an acceptable and effective way to solve problems and those who don't. I'm with the latter. "Those who live by the sword, die by the sword." Disagree if you want, but if you value violence (especially against children) I respect you very, very little.
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Are you for real?
 
Angie said:
Please indicate to me all of the places where I called names, made sad little attempts at attacks, or anything else. In fact, go ahead and showed me where I showed any emotion at all. I think you'll find that you dislike my comments simply because they are void of emotion.

I've simply trolled you with reason, because you're clearly far too wrapped up in this at a personal level. I happen to believe what I'm posting, but I'm posting it to show that you aren't using objectivity, reason, or research to back up your position. When you can't step back and have a rational conversation without getting aggressive, it makes you look stupid and childish...

...which, coincidentally, is parallel to the issue at hand. The cop, a grown adult, couldn't simply step back and deal with the situation with reason and calm intellect. No matter how provoked, it's his job to remain aloof. He failed at this basic tenet of his job.
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You don't honestly believe what you write do you. Your the one showing emotion and saying things like you are winning. I'm not trying to win I'm trying to help you. I'm not mad. I pity you. Not sure of your age but I'm guessing your far too old to be acting the way you are. Good luck.
 
CyBri said:
You don't honestly believe what you write do you. Your the one showing emotion and saying things like you are winning. I'm not trying to win I'm trying to help you. I'm not mad. I pity you. Not sure of your age but I'm guessing your far too old to be acting the way you are. Good luck.
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If this debate was a football game, the score would be 63-6. CyBri just threw a pick six but he's too busy trash talking to notice.
 
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