unbelievable watch this

[CyFan61]

I'm also tired how this generation has to video everything to do with police and criticize them.

I think all police activity should be video recorded and body cameras should be used nationwide.

 

[cyclonedave25]

"However, a third video from Instagram shows Fields try and pick the female student out of her desk, but the student then hits the officer while he brings the desk to the ground.
The person who posted the Instagram video says the student was initially asked to leave the class for telling the teacher that she would not put away her phone. The poster says the teacher disciplined the student with a write-up for being disrespectful and disobedient. After being asked to leave again, and her refusing, an administrator came to remove her, she refused, and that is when the SRO was called in.
The poster of this video claims when Fields got to the classroom, he asked her to get up from her desk 4 or 5 times and again, she tells him no. After moving objects from around the student, and asking again to leave the classroom, and her refusing, that is where you see the officer getting physical."

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If this is what happened, I have no problem with how it was handled.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Do what you're told and nothing bad happens. Don't follow the rules and don't listen to the SRO, then you should expect to get treated like a piece of trash.

 

[State43]

This.
"However, a third video from Instagram shows Fields try and pick the female student out of her desk, but the student then hits the officer while he brings the desk to the ground.
The person who posted the Instagram video says the student was initially asked to leave the class for telling the teacher that she would not put away her phone. The poster says the teacher disciplined the student with a write-up for being disrespectful and disobedient. After being asked to leave again, and her refusing, an administrator came to remove her, she refused, and that is when the SRO was called in.
The poster of this video claims when Fields got to the classroom, he asked her to get up from her desk 4 or 5 times and again, she tells him no. After moving objects from around the student, and asking again to leave the classroom, and her refusing, that is where you see the officer getting physical."

The kid was a brat. Society needs to start emphasizing/teaching personal responsibility and respect, which is a parental shortcoming nowadays.

Agreed

 

[MartyMcCy]

I think all police activity should be video recorded and body cameras should be used nationwide.

...and the police departments should release all the video. This way people can see all the crap cops have to deal with that doesn't make the national headlines.

 

[CycloneGamecock]

My wife went to Spring Valley and this guy was there when she was, small world.

She said he was a nice guy but this is a pretty crazy situation.

 

[ISUKyro]

If you truly do have criminals in your school they should be removed from your school.

I don't know the back story, but to disrupt class is against the law in most states. In Texas, I believe, if they are under 12, no charges. 12 and over can be charged with a misdemeanor.

So, that's disrupting class, not following teacher directives, and not following LEO directives. All which I'm sure are against the Student Code of Conduct the family signed to enroll the child.

I'm not saying I agree with how this officer got the student out. But wow, this kid was a turd for it to go that far. Just head down to the AP office, and file a complaint.

When a student refuses to leave, your options are very limited. To have a stalemate with the student makes the disruption last longer. To call LEO makes it more of an incident. No win situation.

 

[ISUKyro]

I'm just saying that if I were the teacher, I'd have just told her she can sit there if she wants but if she doesn't leave her parent(s) will be called to pick her up because she'll be suspended.

A teacher does not have to power to suspend. The best they could do is have the administration come down and explain her consequences to her actions - but I doubt that would have fixed her non-compliance.

 

[Freebird]

what a scary and backward thought.

As far as the video goes, the longer version, which starts about 30 seconds before the version linked by the OP, does not show her punching the officer before he gets physical. She does not touch him before he grabs her in any version I have seen. Perhaps that video exists, but there are no accounts that I'm aware of that say the student made first contact. I'd like to see an even longer version, but I doubt it exists. I'd also like confirmation on who made first contact. If there was no prior physical contact than what we see in the video, then that cop is going to be fired and probably sued.

This is completely irrelevant. She doesn't have to make "first contact" in order to be forcibly controlled if she is disobeying a lawful order and is resisting.
I think we both agree that more video/information needs to be seen but this may have been a point where this has become a trespass situation or something similar. She has to comply with his order to get up. She didn't so she was forcibly removed. You can see her resist in the video. At first glance the force I see used could have been reasonable and necessary. Bad police tactics? Maybe, maybe not. We don't know the backstory. Maybe others (counselors, etc) should have been called first. Maybe this was a last straw with this student. Who knows. The cop may have totally messed it up or maybe not. There is so much that needs to be investigated first but I'm not ready to side with either party yet.

 

[3TrueFans]

I think the very fact that people see that type of force applied and think "yeah, that looks about right" is the entire problem in a nut shell.

 

[Freebird]

I think the very fact that people see that type of force applied and think "yeah, that looks about right" is the entire problem in a nut shell.

I think people that think that are pretty lucky that they don't have to see or deal with what police deal with on a regular basis.

 

[DiehardClone]

I think the very fact that people see that type of force applied and think "yeah, that looks about right" is the entire problem in a nut shell.

I agree. I would also say that criticizing the student and the cop is not mutually exclusive.

 

[Freebird]

I agree. I would also say that criticizing the student and the cop is not mutually exclusive.

Yep. Great point.

 

[CyBri]

how is she disrupting class by being on her phone? Now I get why the teacher asked her not to be and obviously her refusal deserved punishment and her continued refusal to go to the principals office deserved more punishment. I'm just saying that if I were the teacher, I'd have just told her she can sit there if she wants but if she doesn't leave her parent(s) will be called to pick her up because she'll be suspended.

Whether she deserved it or not, a male police officer putting his hands on a young female and yanking her out of a chair and dragging her across the floor is not a good look, and can't be the best way to go about that situation.

You live in quite the little bubble. Her parents possibly don't care if she is in school or not. Something needs to be done every student shouldn't be disrupted bc this student is a moron. If she was warned a couple times it is time to go. If she hit the officer she should be punished by the school and law. Tired of hearing stories about these brat kids with worthless parents.

 

[jkclone]

This is completely irrelevant. She doesn't have to make "first contact" in order to be forcibly controlled if she is disobeying a lawful order and is resisting.
I think we both agree that more video/information needs to be seen but this may have been a point where this has become a trespass situation or something similar. She has to comply with his order to get up. She didn't so she was forcibly removed. You can see her resist in the video. At first glance the force I see used could have been reasonable and necessary. Bad police tactics? Maybe, maybe not. We don't know the backstory. Maybe others (counselors, etc) should have been called first. Maybe this was a last straw with this student. Who knows. The cop may have totally messed it up or maybe not. There is so much that needs to be investigated first but I'm not ready to side with either party yet.

I don't have a problem with forcibly removing the student. I have a problem with what looks like a suplex while they are still siting in the desk. Forcibly remove the student sideways you know how you get in and out of a desk.

I agree. I would also say that criticizing the student and the cop is not mutually exclusive.

Exactly. The student was an idiot for not listening. That is clear. The cop was an idiot for overreacting.

 

[ISUKyro]

I would have loved to have seen a big rolling cart wheeled into the class room. Then gently pick up the desk with the student in it, place them on the cart and wheel her off while saying Bye Felicia!

 

[Clark]

You live in quite the little bubble. Her parents possibly don't care if she is in school or not. Something needs to be done every student shouldn't be disrupted bc this student is a moron. If she was warned a couple times it is time to go. If she hit the officer she should be punished by the school and law. Tired of hearing stories about these brat kids with worthless parents.

I'm not comfortable making those assumptions

 

[DiehardClone]

You live in quite the little bubble. Her parents possibly don't care if she is in school or not. Something needs to be done every student shouldn't be disrupted bc this student is a moron. If she was warned a couple times it is time to go. If she hit the officer she should be punished by the school and law. Tired of hearing stories about these brat kids with worthless parents.

I'm guessing you're not a parent. As a parent who takes the role seriously, I have learned all too well that even kids with good parents are perfectly capable of acting like a moron, buffoon, a brat, you name it.

 

[Freebird]

I don't have a problem with forcibly removing the student. I have a problem with what looks like a suplex while they are still siting in the desk. Forcibly remove the student sideways you know how you get in and out of a desk.


Exactly. The student was an idiot for not listening. That is clear. The cop was an idiot for overreacting.

I agree. Like I said it could have been bad tactics and that's where I would like to hear what the cop was thinking in his words. At that point I think he was just reacting and adrenaline took over.
With what was shown in the 15 second video, the amount of force used in that situation when no visible weapon/threat is present troubles me. There was probably a better way to handle this but I think it is still too early to tell if the force wasn't reasonable and justified. Bad cops need to be prosecuted/disciplined but I'm still not sold this is a bad cop. Yet.

 

[Mr Janny]

I agree. Like I said it could have been bad tactics and that's where I would like to hear what the cop was thinking in his words. At that point I think he was just reacting and adrenaline took over.
With what was shown in the 15 second video, the amount of force used in that situation when no visible weapon/threat is present troubles me. There was probably a better way to handle this but I think it is still too early to tell if the force wasn't reasonable and justified. Bad cops need to be prosecuted/disciplined but I'm still not sold this is a bad cop. Yet.

I can agree with this. We don't have all the information yet, so any rush to condemn or defend should be slowed way down.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I agree. Like I said it could have been bad tactics and that's where I would like to hear what the cop was thinking in his words. At that point I think he was just reacting and adrenaline took over.
With what was shown in the 15 second video, the amount of force used in that situation when no visible weapon/threat is present troubles me. There was probably a better way to handle this but I think it is still too early to tell if the force wasn't reasonable and justified. Bad cops need to be prosecuted/disciplined but I'm still not sold this is a bad cop. Yet.

Really? But it didn't trouble you in the Michigan flashing lights case?