Bracketology 2015...

New Lunardi posted http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Do we even want a 2 seed? Won't we get stuck in Kentucky's bracket then like Wisconsin is?

Only if they strictly snake-seeded the bracket. If they weight geography for top seeds as much as recent articles have implied there would more than likely be one of Wisconsin, Virginia, or Duke sitting on the 2-line that would be closer to Cleveland to get placed in that region.

If we moved up to a 2-seed, we'd probably end up with KU's spot in the South region.
 
As deflating as that loss to Baylor is, it probably won't move ISU down the S-curve much at all, considering recent results of teams in our vicinity.

Baylor was teetering along the 4-5 line. A win at ksu can add a counter-weight. Beat OU, and we're just as good as we were after the osu and Texas sweep.

Squandering a chance to make a late push for Big12 title is disappointing, but tourney resume didn't suffer based on that result.
 
As deflating as that loss to Baylor is, it probably won't move ISU down the S-curve much at all, considering recent results of teams in our vicinity.

Baylor was teetering along the 4-5 line. A win at ksu can add a counter-weight. Beat OU, and we're just as good as we were after the osu and Texas sweep.

Squandering a chance to make a late push for Big12 title is disappointing, but tourney resume didn't suffer based on that result.
Plus how many times have we squandered that opportunity. Kansas is likely to lose again. May not but odds are they do. Yeah maybe outright is a pipe dream now but every team loses in this conferencE it is just too tough.
 
As deflating as that loss to Baylor is, it probably won't move ISU down the S-curve much at all, considering recent results of teams in our vicinity.

Baylor was teetering along the 4-5 line. A win at ksu can add a counter-weight. Beat OU, and we're just as good as we were after the osu and Texas sweep.

Squandering a chance to make a late push for Big12 title is disappointing, but tourney resume didn't suffer based on that result.

The NCAA tournament is the priority #1.
Priority #2 is getting a nice seed.

(large gap)

Priority #3 was the Big 12 championship. It's still attainable, but now no room for error, and we need help to do it.
 
The NCAA tournament is the priority #1.
Priority #2 is getting a nice seed.

(large gap)

Priority #3 was the Big 12 championship. It's still attainable, but now no room for error, and we need help to do it.


You value getting a good seed over winning the Big 12 championship?

1) Winning the Big 12 championship will take care of the seed.
2) Big 12 championship is a greater achievement than a #2 or 3 seed or whatever.
 
Joe Lunardi now has us as a 3 in Columbus. Which is Kentuckys region.

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I don't care what seed we are, as long as we are not in Kentucky's region.
 

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Link to Lunardi's update.

Still on the 3 line. In UK's bracket, probably a worse draw for 2 seed (UW) than previously (Arizona), but path to Sweet 16 isn't too bad. (Oregon as an 11 is one of those "surging danger" teams).

Edit: ISU got shifted to Columbus for first weekend, that's a noticeable slip for sub-region placement. 3 OU got Louisville slot, 2 Wisconsin in Omaha.
 
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At least in Columbus the tickets will be cheaper than they would be competing against Kentucky fans in Louisville and KU fans in Omaha. I'm sure Wisonsin has a following but it won't be as significant as the two that I just mentioned. The driver still isn't too bad either.
 
A nitpick on Lundardi update: ISU wouldn't be placed in 3-14 w/ Georgia State, because one bracketing principle is to avoid season rematches in round of 64. Easily fixable, switch GSU to Maryland's bracket, Iowa State faces South Dakota State instead.
 
A nitpick on Lundardi update: ISU wouldn't be placed in 3-14 w/ Georgia State, because one bracketing principle is to avoid season rematches in round of 64. Easily fixable, switch GSU to Maryland's bracket, Iowa State faces South Dakota State instead.

I'm not sure that's true. Oregon and UNLV played each other in the round of 64 two years ago after playing during the regular season. I think that only applies to teams you've played twice...
 
Link to Lunardi's update.

Still on the 3 line. In UK's bracket, probably a worse draw for 2 seed (UW) than previously (Arizona), but path to Sweet 16 isn't too bad. (Oregon as an 11 is one of those "surging danger" teams).

Edit: ISU got shifted to Columbus for first weekend, that's a noticeable slip for sub-region placement. 3 OU got Louisville slot, 2 Wisconsin in Omaha.

Midwest Region is better than all the other regions combined in that bracket.
 
Why do people even pay talk about where he is putting teams like it's going to be right? I don't get it.
 
You value getting a good seed over winning the Big 12 championship?

1) Winning the Big 12 championship will take care of the seed.
2) Big 12 championship is a greater achievement than a #2 or 3 seed or whatever.

I really on care about the championship to shut up Kansas fans. Otherwise I honestly could care less. All about march.
 
You value getting a good seed over winning the Big 12 championship?

1) Winning the Big 12 championship will take care of the seed.
2) Big 12 championship is a greater achievement than a #2 or 3 seed or whatever.

Seed allows you to do well in tournament. The big 12 title does not. It works both ways. Care about winning games and a title takes care of itself tOo. What is the prize though. It is hard to move from one prize to the next. The tournament and seed are all part of a logic model to the end goal.. Big 12 isn't a must to that end. Hence it is gravy.
 
Seed allows you to do well in tournament. The big 12 title does not. It works both ways. Care about winning games and a title takes care of itself tOo. What is the prize though. It is hard to move from one prize to the next. The tournament and seed are all part of a logic model to the end goal.. Big 12 isn't a must to that end. Hence it is gravy.

I'd almost argue the big 12 tournament is now more important, especially for seeding. If Iowa St wins out, and so does Ku, Ku wins the league, which doesn't effect our seeding. If Iowa St wins out and Ku losses one, Iowa St wins the big 12, but still doesn't effect seeding.

My guess is, even if Iowa St losses another one, but goes on a run and wins the tournament, then they will get just as good, if not better, than winning out and getting a piece of the regular season championship.
 
Joe Lunardi now has us as a 3 in Columbus. Which is Kentuckys region.

You mean we are still in the tournament? What the hell? I thought last night dropped us to the nit at best.
 
I'm not sure that's true. Oregon and UNLV played each other in the round of 64 two years ago after playing during the regular season. I think that only applies to teams you've played twice...

I thought the principle was "We won't put you with a team you played twice, period; and we'll do what we can to not put you with a team you played once." If the switch is as simple as swapping two of the same seeds then I imagine the committee would do it. The issue might arise if, for example, 3 seed Iowa State had played all four of the 14 seeds in non-con.

I could be wrong, I'm just going off of memory.