Walking Dead

[cyhiphopp]

That is the million dollar question. Maybe this guy's group captured (or just includes)... what's his name from the first episode?

I don't think so. Morgan would have just come up and greeted them himself. He would know that Rick wouldn't trust someone he sent. Morgan was also a ways behind them before. When he found the Termites camp site, everything was aged a few weeks at least if not more.

I have a feeling this guy is with a group that will turn out not to be very nice. They said on the Talking Dead that things were gonna get worse for the group and the next episode preview scenes were not very shiny and happy.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I'm guessing these are the guys who broke into Noahs gated community from the outside, threw the arms and legs out for walker bait and let them do the dirty work. They probably had the truck full of walker torsos with the W on their foreheads.

 

[shagcarpetjesus]

I'm surprised Daryl didn't spot him, but this is most likely.

Dehydrated and grieving Daryl is probably not bringing his A-game at the moment.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Dehydrated and grieving Daryl is probably not bringing his A-game at the moment.

True. They were really beaten down and I don't blame them.

 

[The_Architect]

I'm guessing these are the guys who broke into Noahs gated community from the outside, threw the arms and legs out for walker bait and let them do the dirty work. They probably had the truck full of walker torsos with the W on their foreheads.

Agreed.

 

[shagcarpetjesus]

Even if random dude is from a well supplied/secured community, I found it funny that he shows up looking like an Eddie Bauer model.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Even if random dude is from a well supplied/secured community, I found it funny that he shows up looking like an Eddie Bauer model.

Dude is way too effing nice. If he were part of a community that is well supplied and secure they would probably just wait for the group to come to them. At least I would.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

This is one thing that has been disturbing me for several seasons now...ever since Rick, Carl & Michonne left the lone hitchhiker on the road. I can't figure out what threat he would have imposed.

This show has a very skewed vision of humankind; it seems like even those that are good turn bad (termites, Gabriel). The premise is that you have to be cruel to survive. I can understand being hardened against killing the walkers - you're really just doing them a favor. I realize that meeting up with groups like the prison inmates, the governor (twice), the termites, and the cops in the hospital might make a person wary. I wish they would cross paths with a few more relatively "good" groups of people (that are still alive!), even if they don't join up with them.

Otherwise, what's the point in surviving?

Yeah...I know. I'd be dead before the end of the first episode.

 

[cyhiphopp]

This is one thing that has been disturbing me for several seasons now...ever since Rick, Carl & Michonne left the lone hitchhiker on the road. I can't figure out what threat he would have imposed.

This show has a very skewed vision of humankind; it seems like even those that are good turn bad (termites, Gabriel). The premise is that you have to be cruel to survive. I can understand being hardened against killing the walkers - you're really just doing them a favor. I realize that meeting up with groups like the prison inmates, the governor (twice), the termites, and the cops in the hospital might make a person wary. I wish they would cross paths with a few more relatively "good" groups of people (that are still alive!), even if they don't join up with them.

Otherwise, what's the point in surviving?

Yeah...I know. I'd be dead before the end of the first episode.

Well they did accept Abraham and his peeps. And they had Glen give his seal of approval. The fact that they bought Eugene's BS is another matter. I think Rick is just being ultra-careful.

The hitch-hiker event was at a point when Rick was getting really hardened. I get the feeling he might have picked him up now if he could trust him.

I'm guessing Rick sees this guy as being too good to be true. You don't strut around that happy and clean without having stepped on others nowadays. Even when they were pretty stable in the prison they still looked more rough around the edges than this guy.

 

[GTO]

I figured the guy is part of some sort of religious group (probably Jehova's witness, or one of those that go door to door). Didn't he say he's "got good news"? Next question he'll ask is if they have Jesus in their life. Perfect time to say: "not interested, we already have a pastor".

 

[WastedTalent]

This is one thing that has been disturbing me for several seasons now...ever since Rick, Carl & Michonne left the lone hitchhiker on the road. I can't figure out what threat he would have imposed.

This show has a very skewed vision of humankind; it seems like even those that are good turn bad (termites, Gabriel). The premise is that you have to be cruel to survive. I can understand being hardened against killing the walkers - you're really just doing them a favor. I realize that meeting up with groups like the prison inmates, the governor (twice), the termites, and the cops in the hospital might make a person wary. I wish they would cross paths with a few more relatively "good" groups of people (that are still alive!), even if they don't join up with them.

Otherwise, what's the point in surviving?

Yeah...I know. I'd be dead before the end of the first episode.

Who's really good and who's bad. I mean it's obvious that the cannibals were bad, but Rick did kill that one cop, in what I thought was kinda cold blood. Other than maybe the leader lady cop, those cops in hospital weren't all bad, weird but not bad. It seems to be more about who you can trust, and that leash is getting shorter.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

Who's really good and who's bad. I mean it's obvious that the cannibals were bad, but Rick did kill that one cop, in what I thought was kinda cold blood. Other than maybe the leader lady cop, those cops in hospital weren't all bad, weird but not bad. It seems to be more about who you can trust, and that leash is getting shorter.

Ehh.. many of the cops were bad. It was pretty clear many of them were raping girls they found.

 

[ThatllDoCy]

I also think that Cyhiphopp is right. They took that group out.

Maybe they are just trying to limit competition for food and resources, maybe they are looking for slave labor. You would think that there was safety in numbers and you'd welcome more people, but who knows. Maybe they are just looking for women.

I would think that the group would have figured out by now that the road is dangerous. It is easier to move quickly on the road, but it is easier for everyone else as well. Rick needs to get it together.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Who's really good and who's bad. I mean it's obvious that the cannibals were bad, but Rick did kill that one cop, in what I thought was kinda cold blood. Other than maybe the leader lady cop, those cops in hospital weren't all bad, weird but not bad. It seems to be more about who you can trust, and that leash is getting shorter.

But the termites STARTED OUT good...they were welcoming people, putting out signs to help people on the road find them. Then they got overrun by the people with the freakish dude that Rick, Glenn & Daryl freed from that container. Those men changed Mary and her sons into what they became.

The cops were more than weird. Each one had a "ward". Watch the actions...the "wards" were personal slaves. Anyone who wasn't a cop lived in fear and cowered in corners, and those are the actions of people who were controlled rather than protected.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Well they did accept Abraham and his peeps. And they had Glen give his seal of approval. The fact that they bought Eugene's BS is another matter. I think Rick is just being ultra-careful.

The hitch-hiker event was at a point when Rick was getting really hardened. I get the feeling he might have picked him up now if he could trust him.

I'm guessing Rick sees this guy as being too good to be true. You don't strut around that happy and clean without having stepped on others nowadays. Even when they were pretty stable in the prison they still looked more rough around the edges than this guy.

Oh, I agree about the random woods guy being too good to be true. I was making a general observation about what the show runners envision in the aftermath of a major disaster or plague. I'm afraid humans don't come out looking very good. Which is why I made the observation about not surviving the first episode. I would doubtless be one of the ones who is too trusting.

 

[WastedTalent]

I also think that Cyhiphopp is right. They took that group out.

Maybe they are just trying to limit competition for food and resources, maybe they are looking for slave labor. You would think that there was safety in numbers and you'd welcome more people, but who knows. Maybe they are just looking for women.

I would think that the group would have figured out by now that the road is dangerous. It is easier to move quickly on the road, but it is easier for everyone else as well. Rick needs to get it together.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Illinois, but holy hell there's always forest and timber.

Could you imagine walkers in central Iowa? You could see them things coming from 2 miles away. Hell the wind would probably keep knocking them down.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

Maybe it's just because I'm used to Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Illinois, but holy hell there's always forest and timber.

Could you imagine walkers in central Iowa? You could see them things coming from 2 miles away. Hell the wind would probably keep knocking them down.

Hell, even though the farm went bad for them, i honestly dont see that as a horrible idea. They just had poor defenses. They needed to be grabbing some machinery from town and digging some trenches that walkers couldnt cross.

Combine that with a low population density like Nebraska or South Dakota- id be thinking of this map:

And youd be fairly safe in the plains states.

 

[WastedTalent]

But the termites STARTED OUT good...they were welcoming people, putting out signs to help people on the road find them. Then they got overrun by the people with the freakish dude that Rick, Glenn & Daryl freed from that container. Those men changed Mary and her sons into what they became.

The cops were more than weird. Each one had a "ward". Watch the actions...the "wards" were personal slaves. Anyone who wasn't a cop lived in fear and cowered in corners, and those are the actions of people who were controlled rather than protected.

I do think there's some good people in these other groups, but they gotta do what they have to in order to survive. It's the natural leaders that determine what type of group they have. It just so happens that the main group is lead by Rick, a generally good person that usually does what is humanly right.

However, just like the real world we live in, there are messed up people, and in zombie land they are allowed to lead however they want.

You said that you didn't think you'd live past the first season because you trust too much, but what happens if you join up with a group like terminus? Are you going to go along with what they do, or are you going to do what you believe is "right" and risk going out on your own?

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Actually, I said first episode!

And the reason I wouldn't survive among the people depicted is because I tend to be a caretaker...and that would probably get me kilt or bit...or both.

 

[State43]

It's interesting reading people's speculation. Where is the optimism?