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Did you miss the part where he did go to the athletic department. I can't believe some of you people that are blaming others. BDJ ****ed up, quit blaming others.
The news interviewed him and the kid below BDJ. The Matt White kid looked like what you would expect. The kid below them who had no problem with them seemed like every other college kid.

I don't think that BDJ is completely innocent or anything, but neither is Matt White.
 

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It wasn't even a party. It was 4 people playing videogames.

The sad thing is, from the sounds of it, if the occupants of that apartment had been polite and behaved like decent adults, non of this would be an issue.

So a party gets out of hand earlier in the year and the hallway gets trashed. Cleanup the mess that was made, or get some of your friends to clean up the mess the next day, then apologize to your neighbors and tell them the you'll clean it up and try to keep things under control next time.

The first time someone complain about noise, turn it down and apologize.

I guarentee that if you are polite from the beginning, you're neighbors will let you get away a lot more. If you're a jerk, they'll be a jerk right back.
 

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Matt White is an intolerable doosh. He had to have known that if BDJ was arrested something like this would have happened. Especially as a wrestler he could have approached this via different channels, such as going through the athletic department instead of through the police. Very dooshy thing that he did.
It baffles me how many of you see these players as god. They can do no wrong and how dare anyone make a noise complaint at 3 am on dead week when they clearly exceeded the noise limit.
 

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Who knows what really happened. I mean I have a roommate who called me during class for leaving garbage EVERYWHERE, and it was literally 1 cup of water on the coffee table. People on the internet who dont know him jumping out and calling BDJ a total piece of crap are being internet punks in my opinion.

There's enough smoke (no pun intended) to say that very likely BDJ screwed up and was lucky there were no charges, and you can see the anger in Hoiberg's face. But in any case people should hold back judgement beyond the obvious public record, public record to me is official findings, charges, etc...not one guy's story.

It's a fine conversation for ISU fans to have, but Peter Jok, Mad Fran and Pierre Pierce fans can go pound sand because that hypocrisy is just too massive.
 

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Did you miss the part where he did go to the athletic department. I can't believe some of you people that are blaming others. BDJ ****ed up, quit blaming others.

yeah, I think this sheds a different light on BDJ until he comes out and clears it up. I think we all need to remember that Fred has met with the police regarding this type of behavior and to some extent, that validates what was reported.

It's very disappointing because IF BDJ is doing this stuff and he's up all the time, partying and carrying on, could he be better both as a player and a leader if he was arguably more serious about why he's here?

I don't think Fred is going to put up with much of this **** anymore. BDJ f's up again, he's gone. Just my opinion.
 

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Did you miss the part where he did go to the athletic department. I can't believe some of you people that are blaming others. BDJ ****ed up, quit blaming others.
I can believe it. Lots - and lots - of jock worshippers on the site. Not enough to just be a "fan" anymore...
 

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Matt White is an intolerable doosh. He had to have known that if BDJ was arrested something like this would have happened. Especially as a wrestler he could have approached this via different channels, such as going through the athletic department instead of through the police. Very dooshy thing that he did.

You mean he should have done all the things that he did do before getting the police involved?
 

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At first I thought this, but then his name gets out without his chance to get in front of it. He probably did the right thing to just come out, it would have got out.

I can believe he's telling the truth, but man it seems odd there wasn't evictions or other people moving out. A landlord is going to evict people before he deals with dozens and dozens of complaints from all over the building about one unit. That or he'll just let people move out without a fee. It's just an odd situation if it was call-the-cops-15-times bad with nobody being evicted or moving.

His name only got out because he put it out there. That's a fact. It wouldn't have otherwise.
 

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The news interviewed him and the kid below BDJ. The Matt White kid looked like what you would expect. The kid below them who had no problem with them seemed like every other college kid.

I don't think that BDJ is completely innocent or anything, but neither is Matt White.

After the blowback that the one guy who spoke up is getting do you think anybody else is going to publicly say anything whether they had a problem or not?
 

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The news interviewed him and the kid below BDJ. The Matt White kid looked like what you would expect. The kid below them who had no problem with them seemed like every other college kid.

I don't think that BDJ is completely innocent or anything, but neither is Matt White.

This is about 99% BDJ's fault and 1% the other guys fault, and I'm rounding up to 1%.

When someone posted on BDJ's door asking them to be quieter, I bet if BDJ or his roommates hadn't posted a reply of "Suck my d***", there wouldn't have been an issue.

They could have all the same parties and all the same noise and had no problems if they just would have shown the illusion of being nice to their neighbors.
 

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The main thing I've taken away from all this today is that it is apparently outrageous for a person to want to get some sleep in their own apartment at 3 AM on a weeknight. In fact, it is so outrageous that they deserve to be harassed by random strangers over it.

What the hell people

I had an epic noise battle once where I contacted the building management company probably 20 times over 6 months...there was ONE time I considered calling the police but was able to get it taken care of just before calling.

It is really odd for the police to get 15 noise complaints with nobody getting evicted or moving. Maybe that means BDJ was getting special treatment, maybe it means some neighbors expect a college apt to be quieter than possible or are drama queens, but it's odd.
 

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His name only got out because he put it out there. That's a fact. It wouldn't have otherwise.

Don't you think it would have been easy for someone to find out and release if they wanted to? I mean his Daily story was out a few hours after the story broke, by tomorrow I'm guessing his name is out. It's Ames, not NYC.
 

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Keep your sanity...consider the source of the post, and just move on...

Exactly. Just reading thru this thread it's easy to point out the irrational and immature posters. I rarely ever look at who posted what, but I usually take note when I come across one that is blatantly insulting. Needless to say, there are now a few on here that have lost any credibility.
 

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Bryce needs to grow up. I am not going to burn him at the stake for his issues and I trust Fred to handle it. Bryce has to know he is treading on thin ice. He must face his coach and his team and face the consequences.

That being said, some of you need a serious reality check. Slinging mud at Matt White? Calling him a doosh? Hoping he is unsuccessful in life?

Grow the **** up.
 

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After the blowback that the one guy who spoke up is getting do you think anybody else is going to publicly say anything whether they had a problem or not?
Exactly, the guy below even said it's loud a lot, but said it didn't really bother him. Felt like he said that publicly so that he avoided the bitter fan girls and jock worshipers from attacking him.
 

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It comes down to this: It's not on Matt White to keep Bryce out of the trouble. It's on Bryce to keep Bryce out of trouble and he failed to do that. He made a stupid decision, and should feel fortunate that he is only missing one game that is relatively unimportant in the long run. Hopefully he learns from this.
 

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This is about 99% BDJ's fault and 1% the other guys fault, and I'm rounding up to 1%.

When someone posted on BDJ's door asking them to be quieter, I bet if BDJ or his roommates hadn't posted a reply of "Suck my d***", there wouldn't have been an issue.

They could have all the same parties and all the same noise and had no problems if they just would have shown the illusion of being nice to their neighbors.
My impression was that was well after the problems started. I keep going back to the 60 dbs. That is not loud for right outside of an apartment door. I feel like both are probably equally at fault. Like HFCS said if BDJ was really being a problem why would the landlord tolerate it. There is just to much that says that the kid was whining for the most part for me to really think BDJ was the main problem. He didn't help it, but I really don't think he initiated the problems.
 

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Pretty disappointed in BDJ. I think Hoiberg has done a great job with all the transfers and they have all represented ISU with class up until now. But, I have had my doubts about BDJ being a team guy from his arrival and this really isn't helping my opinion. Would not be surprised if we are a better "team" tomorrow without him. Being a bad neighbor might not be a crime, but it isn't what we've come to expect of Hoiball either.
 

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My impression was that was well after the problems started. I keep going back to the 60 dbs. That is not loud for right outside of an apartment door. I feel like both are probably equally at fault. Like HFCS said if BDJ was really being a problem why would the landlord tolerate it. There is just to much that says that the kid was whining for the most part for me to really think BDJ was the main problem. He didn't help it, but I really don't think he initiated the problems.

For the ordinance the noise is measured at the street edge. I saw it said something about outside his apartment door, but they would have measured it where the ordinance says it is to be measured. If it is 60 at the street, it is a hell of a lot louder inside their neighbors' apartments - especially the bass.