Some numbers to go with Pollard's claim
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I hope you're right but I don't think it's news to anybody that the bottom feeders in major conferences don't get the calls when they're playing the better teams. If JP's clip makes much news nationally I'm afraid we'll just be regarded as whiners, even though the complaints are legit imo. It might even be used against us in recruiting.
Yeah the refs are out to keep a downtrodden program like ISU down, lulz. Maybe we're 4-13 since the start of 2013 season because of coaching and recruiting but blame it on the refs, whatever deflects the blame
Is it really still too difficult for you to figure out?
Not one single person is saying that Iowa State has a losing record because of the refs making bad calls. NO ONE.
What IS being said is that there have been some horrendous calls that have been made against ISU that have had a negative impact on momentum at times and possibly the final outcome of a few games. Calls that were either completely made up or so wrong that everyone else except the refs knows that they are wrong(assuming the refs are incompetent and not corrupt).
On Saturday Iowa State was going head to head with OSU in the first half. The team made a mistake on a kickoff before halftime but the defense did what they had to do and stopped OSU from scoring. It was a tied game at 6 to 6. They had positive momentum and a reason to be excited going into the second half. Unfortunately, the replay official came along and reversed the call on the field and awarded OSU the touchdown. Being robbed again by the officials obviously ****** off the players. The second half was a completely different game from the first. This team may not have the ability to focus that anger and come out and light the world on fire. They got their minds messed with and couldn't recover. The point is they shouldn't have to always feel like they are fighting an uphill battle that is set up for them to fail.
Every game in football has questionable calls that get made and calls that get missed. No one is complaining about those types of calls. The complaints are centered around the made up / horrible calls that seem to get made when Iowa State has a chance to gain some positive momentum or have a possible impact that is favorable to the Cyclones. It's complete ******** and has to stop.
No one is saying that Iowa State would be a great team or have a winning record if it wasn't for the refs, but to say that the BS calls have not had a negative effect on the outcome of some games and the players attitudes and performance is being completely naive.
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THIS. What makes things even worse is that many times it is on the replay reviewed calls that we get screwed on. When the call was initially in the other team's favor, there seems to never be enough evidence to overturn it (even when there is enough evidence). When it was initially in our favor, it seems there is always evidence to overturn the call (even when there isn't). That ******** has got to stop.
He said he thought it was probably a touchdown but there wasn't any evidence to overturn the call on the field.
Anyone know what the numbers were for penalties for Baylor 2-3 years before their rise to freakness? Or maybe KU before they went to the Orange Bowl and won?
Simply put, we MUST play better to put us in a position where our ability to overcome them isn't such a huge hurdle. Those teams have done it. Other teams have done it. Adversity, fair or not, can be overcome. Good teams do it.
Simply put, we MUST play better to put us in a position where our ability to overcome them isn't such a huge hurdle. Those teams have done it. Other teams have done it. Adversity, fair or not, can be overcome. Good teams do it.
I figure the PI calls disparity is just like a bad basketball team and foul disparity.
If you can't move your feet and you are not very good or young then you get taken advantage of.
If you can't move your feet and you are not very good or young then you get taken advantage of.
If you actually look into those numbers it helps the conspiracy theorists against Iowa State.
Iowa State does a great job of not having penalties (top 25 in the country), yet they are almost dead last in yards per penalty. In relation, Iowa State opponents are almost the best in the country when it comes to yards per penalty.
Don't take this post as me saying I'm a conspiracy theorist! I'm just pointing out the numbers.
In fairness to the refs here, ISU need to do a much better job of coaching our defensive backs on how to defend against the pass. It is an easy call when the defender never turn around to face the thrown ball.
It's also not so much the disparity in penalties as much as when they happen to go against Iowa State. Crucial situations, looks like the ISU defense has made a stand, and BAM! Out comes the flag leading to a touchdown for the opponent. ISU is driving for a score and BAM! Out comes the flag forcing ISU into a long FG opportunity or into a punting situation.
Then you get the real gems like the pass interference call against Iowa where the flag was picked up. Instead of a drive extending penalty ISU is forced to kick a FG instead. Clearly the wrong decision was made to pick up the flag and wave off the call. On a side note... I have never seen the officials throw a flag, the umpire signal the penalty, the umpire then announces the penalty to the crowd, and then all of a sudden they pick it up as if nothing ever happened. Craziest thing I've ever seen.
That's the point. Iowa State kicked the on - side kick and recovered it. Kicker was ruled off-sides. Had to kick again and it was Baylor's ball.
