Both are good. Both could have been chosen. Both can shoot. They want combo guards? Both are decent. I expect both to be on the court at some point.
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Both are good. Both could have been chosen. Both can shoot. They want combo guards? Both are decent. I expect both to be on the court at some point.
Yea, I mean going in we knew there was a good chance neither of our guys got drafted and a chance that Marble would get drafted late. I don't get how any of this is some big revelation that changes what we already knew.
It sure sounds like there are teams that are open to giving Kane and Ejim a look, they just knew they didn't need to burn their 2nd round picks to lock them up. Picking up some euro guy to stash for a few years or even a younger college player could very well be less about franchises liking those players better, and more about grabbing the rights to someone they know they'll have more competition for.
Yea, I only got that deep before I realized I was putting more effort into the argument than it was worth.
Said it hurt the street cred a "little bit" I mean it can't help any. (and yes we will be completely fine)
I understand Kane and Melvin will probably end up somewhere.
But when recruited players see that Hoiberg had the Big12 player of the year, Tourney MVP and Newcomer of the year not get called....Its kind of a head scratcher.
How many of those 200 players 2nd round projected had stats and awards in one of the best leagues in the country like our guys? I think that is what people are getting frustrated about.
I like their chances as a free agent though.
we shall see
Kane is a much better rebounder and defender. Sorry, call me a homer, but picking Marble over Kane is just baffling.
Yeah. If these two were the same age, Kane would have easily been an early first round pick. There are small differences between the two, but Kane is on another level with those differences.
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I think some of you are completely ignoring the financial aspects of the draft. I'm pretty confident in saying that Kane will see more NBA minutes next season then Marble will, and I think most NBA teams would agree with that. Kane's age made him an unattractive draft pick, but he will get picked up as a FA and hopefully contribute. Marble is likely to have a longer NBA career, and is the type of guy that will see D-league time for a few years before making an NBA roster.
Gary Dolphin subbed in to do sports on WHO yesterday. Said big day for the state of Iowa. First mention was Marble and once he got done rubbing it out about how he could be a first rounder, he mentioned Dougie as a lottery pick. Followed it up with MLB scores. ********* homer didn't even mention Kane or Ejim.
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Then you're a homer because it's not baffling at all. Look at all of the mock drafts done before the drafts. Nearly all of them had Marble going before Kane. Jay Bilas had Marble rated higher. Scouts had Marble rated higher. The NBA draft is about youth and potential.
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This. Kane is going to get picked up by a team. He is more likely than Marble to contribute right away, but the draft is not about who can contribute right away. not in the second round anyway.
First, any talk of it hurting Fred's credibility is ridiculous. No one would even know Deandre Kane's name if he didn't play for Fred this year. Melvin would have never developed from the energy guy to a legitimate offensive player without Fred. The fact these guys got to the combine and will have teams fighting to get them on their summer league team is a testament to what Fred does.
Second, I don't see the reason for the dismay about them not being drafted. The draft isn't about picking the guy that's going to come in and play the most minutes for you day 1. It's about projecting and looking at a combination of current ability and projected ability. Also, it's about knowing who you have to draft and who might go undrafted. I imagine teams interested in both Mel and Deandre had good information that they likely weren't going to be drafted. So why not wait and hope you can sign them to a summer league team?
Second, I don't see the reason for the dismay about them not being drafted. The draft isn't about picking the guy that's going to come in and play the most minutes for you day 1. It's about projecting and looking at a combination of current ability and projected ability. Also, it's about knowing who you have to draft and who might go undrafted. I imagine teams interested in both Mel and Deandre had good information that they likely weren't going to be drafted. So why not wait and hope you can sign them to a summer league team?
Yes, because 10x the potential strictly means 10x Kane's stats. Come on. It means he has the potential to be a much better player who will also be playing in the league for many more years than Kane would have. He may never realize his potential, I'm not going to argue that, but it's definitely there.
A lot of ISU fans don't think Marble is all that good, but he is.
The thing for me is that he doesn't have that killer instinct. The boundary where cockiness and athleticism meet.
If he showed me more emotion and a little Kane, Hogue personality I would think he would see a lot of minutes in the NBA.
The thing for me is that he doesn't have that killer instinct. The boundary where cockiness and athleticism meet.
If he showed me more emotion and a little Kane, Hogue personality I would think he would see a lot of minutes in the NBA.
Carson is very undersized and never should have left ASU early. Enjoy your time in college when you have no NBA prospects.
What is Marble? 22/23? Kane is 25? right? Can't believe that is considered old considered who just won the NBA finals.
There's no point in arguing. All up to the draft, whenever Kane's named was mentioned in a mock draft it was posted here with excitement, but it was ignored that Marble was also in that mock draft and higher up in it. There should be no surprise in it, but then again, most of the posters in this thread complaining pay no attention to the NBA and it shows.
whoever made the point about Marble's age is correct...he is basically a rare combo of someone with 4 years of a dramatically improved college resume AND youth upside. hes not even 22 until september.
