Bubu Thread

[LutherBlue]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

If Leath had all this extra evidence like he claims, why did he not give it to the court? He's full of ****, that's why.

I hate to get in the way of your righteous indignation but ... who is saying he didn't? The court hasn't been asked to rule on the propriety of the decision yet.

 

[Cyclones01]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

If Leath had all this extra evidence like he claims, why did he not give it to the court? He's full of ****, that's why.

Where has he claimed he had extra evidence?

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Snow, that is a baseless accusation, in my opinion.

Sorry CyAggie, you are no longer allowed to post. You can still represent CF in any other manner though.

 

[CapnCy]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Read Hines' article. Difficult to call Leath incompetent.

 

[Spam]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Where has he claimed he had extra evidence?

Would a determination of guilt with regards to a violation of the student code of conduct not be based on some sort of evidence? Leath's case may be stronger if he said what that evidence is.

 

[CyAg]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

It says he was not charged, what is not out there is the testimony that cannot be released.

And again, is not about criminal charges, that is up to the courts. This is about ISU sanctions.

 

[LutherBlue]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Would a determination of guilt with regards to a violation of the student code of conduct not be based on some sort of evidence? Leath's case may be stronger if he said what that evidence is.

Federal privacy law prevents him from getting into the details.

 

[Cincyclone]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

It's clear that some on here have already made up their minds on this SNAFU and anything that Leath does further will be spun against him. The complaints about his comments in that article are ridiculous IMO.

 

[CYphyllis]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Except everything that matters says he didn't sexually assault anyone.

Keep trying.

Except for the fact that I doubt she was looking to continue to be humiliated and just wanted it to go away. Young women don't attempt to take these sorts of things to the he said/she said courts without due reason, more than likely she just lost her nerve and wanted to put the night behind her. Of course there is also the complete obvious, they wouldn't have kicked him off the team if there wasn't something there not to mention they wouldn't continue to fight to keep Bubu off the team if they felt he was innocent. Don't be so naive.

In reality, the moral majority on this site are grabbing their torches and pitch forks every time a kid gets caught with a small baggie of Ames finest ditch weed, but when a walkon from Ames with a cute nickname get nailed for taking turns dead fishing a drunk girl with his scumbag friend you're all willing to go to war for him. It's hypocrisy. It's mind boggling.

 

[CyAg]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Sorry CyAggie, you are no longer allowed to post. You can still represent CF in any other manner though.

Thank you for the due process and notification.
However, if the Publisher feels I did not represent CF rules, he does have the right to ban me, or limit me to reading only, while still keeping my login.
I appeal.

 

[Spam]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Except for the fact that I doubt she was looking to continue to be humiliated and just wanted it to go away. Young women don't attempt to take these sorts of things to the he said/she said courts without due reason, more than likely she just lost her nerve and wanted to put the night behind her. Of course there is also the complete obvious, they wouldn't have kicked him off the team if there wasn't something there not to mention they wouldn't continue to fight to keep Bubu off the team if they felt he was innocent. Don't be so naive.

In reality, the moral majority on this site are grabbing their torches and pitch forks every time a kid gets caught with a small baggie of Ames finest ditch weed, but when a walkon from Ames with a cute nickname get nailed for taking turns dead fishing a drunk girl with his scumbag friend you're all willing to go to war for him. It's hypocrisy. It's mind boggling.

it wasnt the the girl who decided not to pursue charges. It was not the girl who decided to put the night behind her. It wasn't the girl who lost her nerve.

 

[67CY]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Doesn't Leath occasionally make post game locker room appearances - wonder if he did today?

 

[alarson]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

It's clear that some on here have already made up their minds on this SNAFU and anything that Leath does further will be spun against him. The complaints about his comments in that article are ridiculous IMO.

You could say this about most of the blind leath defenders as well.

I dont have to know what the specific evidence was... but tell me its more than just the testimony of a girl who has zero credibility after fabricating evidence.

Also, i find the continued trotting out of the whole transfer waiver thing disingenuous. Sure, ISU could support a waiver. Doesnt mean Bubu would get one, or that many places would be looking to fill an opening with that kind of fight with the NCAA.

 

[CyAg]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

it wasnt the the girl who decided not to pursue charges. It was not the girl who decided to put the night behind her. It wasn't the girl who lost her nerve.

What are you trying to say here? Honest question, not getting it.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

My understanding is that Leath had no information that the ALJ didn't have, none, so this idea he has some secret information nobody else has is nonsense. Only difference is the ALJ actually questioned the parties involved while Leath didn't even do that, correct? The question is why did Leath give credibility to the woman who had lied to the county attorney while nobody else except he and his supporters have? And I'll give him a good effort at damage control in the interview but he still could have made it much easier for everybody by doing his job sooner. I'm sure BuBu's preferred options 1,2, and 3 were to stay with his teammates at ISU and he had no reason to expect Leath to reverse the ALJ decision.

 

[CrossCyed]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Believe it or not, Leath and Pollard are not stupid people. There has to be a reason they are so vigorously pursuing this.

 

[LutherBlue]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

You could say this about most of the blind leath defenders as well.

I dont have to know what the specific evidence was... but tell me its more than just the testimony of a girl who has zero credibility after fabricating evidence.

Also, i find the continued trotting out of the whole transfer waiver thing disingenuous. Sure, ISU could support a waiver. Doesnt mean Bubu would get one, or that many places would be looking to fill an opening with that kind of fight with the NCAA.

If you followed along a bit more carefully ... the attorney general's brief to the Supreme Court referenced statements made by Palo. My guess is the kid couldn't bring himself to lie, it's a lot easier to take the 5th.

 

[LutherBlue]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

My understanding is that Leath had no information that the ALJ didn't have, none, so this idea he has some secret information nobody else has is nonsense. Only difference is the ALJ actually questioned the parties involved while Leath didn't even do that, correct? The question is why did Leath give credibility to the woman who had lied to the county attorney while nobody else except he and his supporters have? And I'll give him a good effort at damage control in the interview but he still could have made it much easier for everybody by doing his job sooner. I'm sure BuBu's preferred options 1,2, and 3 were to stay with his teammates at ISU and he had no reason to expect Leath to reverse the ALJ decision.

Read the Hines article. Leath says he agreed with the factual findings. So it appears he didn't base his decision on a credibility determination. Instead, he disagreed with the ALJ's application of the ISU policy to the facts that were presented.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

Except for the fact that I doubt she was looking to continue to be humiliated and just wanted it to go away. Young women don't attempt to take these sorts of things to the he said/she said courts without due reason, more than likely she just lost her nerve and wanted to put the night behind her. Of course there is also the complete obvious, they wouldn't have kicked him off the team if there wasn't something there not to mention they wouldn't continue to fight to keep Bubu off the team if they felt he was innocent. Don't be so naive.

In reality, the moral majority on this site are grabbing their torches and pitch forks every time a kid gets caught with a small baggie of Ames finest ditch weed, but when a walkon from Ames with a cute nickname get nailed for taking turns dead fishing a drunk girl with his scumbag friend you're all willing to go to war for him. It's hypocrisy. It's mind boggling.

Your hypocrisy is extreme, even for you.
The only known facts are that this woman maliciously went after with Bubu with falsified evidence, but because a woman accused a man, many people lose their minds. If three women drink, have sex, regret it, and one falsifies evidence to accuse the other of rape, does Leath rule the same? Leath is applying a construction of sexual assault fallaciously based on gender and his own antiquated morals to say the ISU policy was violated.
Besides Leath, as a plant scientist, likely not being as competent in this as a judge, what is alarming is how incompetent he was in handling a process that is not that uncommon at that level. Too busy in Africa?

 

[cyclone1975]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I get a kick out of how he kept saying that he imposed a penalty that was less than what was "recommended." Recommended by who.....the alleged victim? This case was already decided in Bubu's favor and it was appealed. So the losing party was asking him to overturn the decision and also giving him recommendations and he feels justified to say, in effect, that he overturned the decision and imposed a penalty, but that is okay because "well I didn't give them everything like they wanted."