Are we recruting this Ames Running back

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In his defense for not breaking the state record, I believe he's only played in the second half in four games this year, and the fourth quarter just two games.
 

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Just so I am clear... We rip on Rhoads when they recruit an athlete with no BCS offers. But now we want him to recruit an athlete with no BCS offers? Makes sense.
 
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Just so I am clear... We rip on Rhoads when they recruit an athlete with no BCS offers. But now we want him to recruit an athlete with no BCS offers? Makes sense.

gonna go out on a limb and say there's something outside of football that's preventing this from happening. Not sure what though.
 

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In his defense for not breaking the state record, I believe he's only played in the second half in four games this year, and the fourth quarter just two games.

That wasnt a critique. Its impressive as hell.

I hear Ames is dominating tonight.
 

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Just so I am clear... We rip on Rhoads when they recruit an athlete with no BCS offers. But now we want him to recruit an athlete with no BCS offers? Makes sense.

Well, if they're from Iowa, it's fine because no one sees them. It's those darn ones from Texas and stuff who we can't offer. You see, there are caveats involving the star/offer stuff.
 

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Might be a good candidate for a gray-shirt offer, because we are pretty loaded at his position in this class and he is a local kid. Seems like the kind of player that if we don't offer, he will end up at UNI and we'll wish we had him.

This. Offer him a grey-shirt now. Then if they happen to lose Mister, they can bring him in as a regular recruit instead. I could see a lot of places that this kid could play...RB, CB, slot WR, KR. Give him a GS year and then a RS year and he comes out the back end 5'8 205. I think that he could play RB in the pistol pretty well, but I also think that he would be pretty effective getting up field as a WR catching those bubble screens. At the very least, you'd think that he would be a nice KR right away.
 

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Just had to be a jerk and trash a coach while you were at it, didn't you? Genius.
glad you noticed. Seriously he has 10 lbs on JJ Moses and speeeeeeeed. JJ was a great Cyclone. An OC that doesn't demand to offer a local kid like that.......
 

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On the news last night. His Dad is a teacher or Professor at Iowa State, I thought it said.
Quite to trip to get to Ames.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if his dad is a professor at ISU, wouldn't he get a free education there? Isn't that how that works? If so, if it were free, why waste a scholarship? Why not just have him as a walk on and save the scholie, since he's already getting his schooling paid for? Just thinking out loud here, don't know if any of it is even right.
 

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This. Offer him a grey-shirt now. Then if they happen to lose Mister, they can bring him in as a regular recruit instead. I could see a lot of places that this kid could play...RB, CB, slot WR, KR. Give him a GS year and then a RS year and he comes out the back end 5'8 205. I think that he could play RB in the pistol pretty well, but I also think that he would be pretty effective getting up field as a WR catching those bubble screens. At the very least, you'd think that he would be a nice KR right away.

Why risk losing him by offering a gray shirt only for another program to come in and offer him a scholarship. Not saying he would be the type to feel slighted and shun our eventual schollie offer, but you never know. I would like someone to name a player that has dominated in 4A like that and did not turn out to be at least a scholarship worthy player. I was extremely skeptical of the hype, but I'm a believer after seeing him live. Size can't be a concern - just a few weeks ago we were giving a 167 lb. RB over 20 touches.
 

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I would like someone to name a player that has dominated in 4A like that and did not turn out to be at least a scholarship worthy player. .

Barkley Hill, Andre Ellington, that Abertowski kid (can't remember his name, really fast)....or if we want to go back farther, take tyour pick of Greg Coleman and Jason Scales. Although the last 2 were probably scholarship worthy, just never turned into what I was hoping for.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if his dad is a professor at ISU, wouldn't he get a free education there? Isn't that how that works? If so, if it were free, why waste a scholarship? Why not just have him as a walk on and save the scholie, since he's already getting his schooling paid for? Just thinking out loud here, don't know if any of it is even right.

a) His dad is employed at ISU, but is P&S, not faculty. I think he's an assistant scientist....not sure of his exact title. Edit: I looked him up - he's a Research Associate II.

b) Even if his dad was faculty, his kids still would not get free tuition...or even discounted tuition. Family members of faculty pay tuition just like everyone else.
 
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Why risk losing him by offering a gray shirt only for another program to come in and offer him a scholarship. Not saying he would be the type to feel slighted and shun our eventual schollie offer, but you never know. I would like someone to name a player that has dominated in 4A like that and did not turn out to be at least a scholarship worthy player. I was extremely skeptical of the hype, but I'm a believer after seeing him live. Size can't be a concern - just a few weeks ago we were giving a 167 lb. RB over 20 touches.

Problem is, we paid for it. Or rather, he did. If he ducks all the tackles, good for him. Sooner or later, tho, those 300+ lb behemoths from TX fall on him & squarsh him...law of averages...
 

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a) His dad is employed at ISU, but is P&S, not faculty. I think he's an assistant scientist....not sure of his exact title. Edit: I looked him up - he's a Research Associate II.

b) Even if his dad was faculty, his kids still would not get free tuition...or even discounted tuition. Family members of faculty pay tuition just like everyone else.

C) even if we did pay for kids of faculty like Drake does it would still count against our schollies. The aid that is exempted from the "head count" is mainly the aid without institutional or potential booster control (pell grants, GI benifits, Military family scholarship, AmeriCorps Education Award etc.). The pitfall is it prevents a guy who aces his SAT/ACT and would likely get a full ride from walking on. There is other rules from non recruited athletes who then walk on are eligable for more but not everything. But he has clearly been recruited by ISU.
 

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