We would not have been in the MAC just because it is Midwest. ZERO percent chance that would have ever happened. as in NONE, ZILCH, NADA. NOT TRUE. Not sure any other way to say it.
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We would not have been in the MAC just because it is Midwest. ZERO percent chance that would have ever happened. as in NONE, ZILCH, NADA. NOT TRUE. Not sure any other way to say it.
I agree unlike the others I mentioned they are not a great academic or research school.
That cluster **** of a Big East would have still been a legit "major" league, and while it would have had a lower pay day than the revised Big 12, it would be light years ahead of what the AAC is or the MAC is.
Keep in mind that when this was all happening (2010, and then again in 2011):
1) The Big East was still a BCS conference - it may have been the worst one, but it was in the Power Six
2) The Mountain West was easily the best non-BCS conference - it had TCU, BYU, Utah, and it probably would have drawn in Boise State as well
Those options were both INFINITELY better for Iowa State than the MAC would have been.
Lesser competition, of course, but I like the Mountain West. I'd rather travel out there more than most places.
That is if either conference wanted us. I'm not gonna lie, there would've been better options out there for both conferences if the Big 12 imploded. Not to be a debbie downer, but we don't add a whole lot of value from a TV perspective. ESPECIALLY back then
Let's say the Big 12 implodes in 2010. TAMU and MU head to the SEC. UT, Tech, CU, OU, and OSU head over to the newly formed Pac-16. Nebraska's in the Big Ten.... and ISU, KSU, KU, and BU are on the outside looking in. We would have been Big East bound.
This is what the Big East would have looked like... probably:
Big East (or AAC) West Division:
Baylor
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Big East (or AAC) East Division:
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
West Virginia
That's not a horrible conference by any means. Not great, and we'd take a pay cut, but certainly nowhere near the MAC.
This is what the Big East would have looked like... probably:
Big East (or AAC) West Division:
Baylor
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Big East (or AAC) East Division:
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
West Virginia
That's not a horrible conference by any means. Not great, and we'd take a pay cut, but certainly nowhere near the MAC.
Hawkeye Fan: Big 12 is going to impode. Clowns are going to end up in the MAC.
Gulible Cyclone Fan: The sky is falling. There are no other options.
The whole MAC thing was invented by Hawkeye fans and the Iowa media. And only gulible or brainwashed Cyclone fans bought into it. There was never any consideration of EVER joining the MAC. NEVER.
Gulible Cyclone Fan: The sky is falling. There are no other options.
The whole MAC thing was invented by Hawkeye fans and the Iowa media. And only gulible or brainwashed Cyclone fans bought into it. There was never any consideration of EVER joining the MAC. NEVER.
KU would've gone to the Big 10 I think. Along with K-State. Big East implodes and the ACC/SEC poaches wherever needed. Now there is the Power 4 and ISU (and Baylor) is on the outside looking in.
There were many reports that we would have been in the Big East and a deal was done if the OK and TX schools went to the Pac 12. Also many reports that the Mountain West wanted us. To act like we don't add value to those conferences is ridiculous.
In 2010, the Big Ten was not experimenting with a conference size above 12. Nebraska was team #12. Kansas may have moved in the next cycle of realignment, but would have come along to the new Big East at first.
Then, the schools that Al_4_State listed are next in line for the new Big East. Probably TCU first, then UCF and ECU to get to 14. The new Big East would remain a power conference - still the worst one, but still in the mix. ISU would not end up playing Akron in a new rivalry game in the MAC.
And K-State would never, ever, in a million billion years, be taken in by the Big Ten.
I thought the lawmakers said the wouldn't allow Kansas and K-State to be split up. That was my thinking behind that. If the Big 10 would take Rutgers and Maryland, they would take K-State.
K-State never would be in Big 10. But once again, NO MAC in that situation even if that happened. Never would ISU have EVER ended up in the MAC in any situation. Even if we would have been outside of a power conference, we would not have been in the MAC.
Also, you guys are crazy to think we would've ended up in a AQ conference if everything went to ****. The only thing that would save us is potentially the BOR ******** at Iowa to ***** at the B1G to take us in. Power 4 = 16 teams each, they might have room. MIGHT.
You guys make it seem like the MAC couldn't woo some other schools to come with them that didn't make it into an AQ and are in the Midwest. Travel costs for non-profit sports would be astronomical for the Big East and Mountain West.
This is a fantasy. Why would you assume that everyone jumps to 16 just because the Pac-16 was formed?
Everyone would certainly wait to see how that experiment went. We have no idea if it would have worked, but I have a hunch that a conference where every school holds equal sway would not sit well with Texas, who would have been prevented from forming their Longhorn Network.
You said we would have ended up in the MAC. That is way different than saying we would have not been in an AQ conference. No one said we definitely would have. What people are saying is that we definitely would have not been in the MAC. There is a difference.
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