OMG our young guards!

[Admiral]

Not enough minutes for someone who scored 67.

Are you taking away Kane's or Thomas', cause I got SDW getting 25, I think thats pretty close for our super 6th man (assuming he lives up to this hype).

I'd put the title of my car on Kane getting 30+ minutes/ night.

Hence me giving him 32

Lol, Kane def needs to be in there

Kane (20) / Morris (15) / Bubu (5)
Thomas (27) / SDW (13)
Hougue (16) / Kane (12) / SDW (12)
Ejim (30) / Hougue (10)
Niang (32) / Gibson (5) / Ejim (3)

Projected minutes

Total minutes:
Ejim 33
Niang 32
Kane 32
Thomas 27
Hougue 26
SDW 25
Morris 15
Bubu 5
Gibson 5

 

[madcityCY]

Are you taking away Kane's or Thomas', cause I got SDW getting 25, I think thats pretty close for our super 6th man (assuming he lives up to this hype).

Hence me giving him 32

Total minutes:
Ejim 33
Niang 32
Kane 32
Thomas 27
Hougue 26
SDW 25
Morris 15
Bubu 5
Gibson 5

Yeah I didn't see the 12 you have him at the "3" spot. My bad. Good work.

 

[Gravy79]

I really don't understand the guessing minutes posts.

 

[Cincyclone]

I wasn't saying that, more that if you think Fred would pick 3 point shooting as Percy's one hole to fill that you're probably not very knowledgeable at basketball.

Care to show me where I said that it's the only thing Hoiberg wants him to work on? Obviously he has other holes in his game but those are mostly his post defense and post offense, both of which are not things you'll get a lot of work at in the CCL, frankly. Jump shooting, though, is an area that CAN be improved in the CCL by getting legit reps with a defender (probably) closing out.

 

[Clonefan32]

I really don't understand the guessing minutes posts.

This is a message board predicated on mindless speculation...that is all there is to understand.

 

[Rabbuk]

Care to show me where I said that it's the only thing Hoiberg wants him to work on? Obviously he has other holes in his game but those are mostly his post defense and post offense, both of which are not things you'll get a lot of work at in the CCL, frankly. Jump shooting, though, is an area that CAN be improved in the CCL by getting legit reps with a defender (probably) closing out.

IF we're relying on percy to jump shoot in games, it means this season isn't going well.

 

[Gravy79]

I don't think anyone said he would be relied on for that.

 

[Cincyclone]

IF we're relying on percy to jump shoot in games, it means this season isn't going well.

And where did I say we'd rely on it? Is it really that difficult to see the benefit of having at least some 3 point threat from likely our first post player off the bench? Even if he's around Booker's level it would still open up the offense that much more.

 

[IcSyU]

And where did I say we'd rely on it? Is it really that difficult to see the benefit of having at least some 3 point threat from likely our first post player off the bench? Even if he's around Booker's level it would still open up the offense that much more.

No...I really don't. If he can hit a 10-12 foot baseline jumper that's plenty. Now isn't the time to be trying to add a 3 point shot. Heck, if he can figure out a way to hit a baby hook right handed instead of having to go left that'd be huge. We have plenty of people capable of shoot a 3...we need some sort of presence on the inside to open up those shooters. I want to see Percy capable of drawing a double so he can catch and find the open shooter when the double collapses.

 

[Admiral]

I really don't understand the guessing minutes posts.

Then why are you on a basketball forum in June if you don't want to hear speculation :shrug:

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

Then why are you on a basketball forum in June if you don't want to hear speculation :shrug:

I think that if we give a depth chart that's good enough. But predicting who plays what minutes is a waste of time, its like guessing the score of a game. You're so unlikely to be right, why even try it.

 

[Rabbuk]

And where did I say we'd rely on it? Is it really that difficult to see the benefit of having at least some 3 point threat from likely our first post player off the bench? Even if he's around Booker's level it would still open up the offense that much more.

I see zero benefit to having a 6'9" guy who has never shown any flashes of being good at shooting the 3 shoot threes. I'd rather he pass or take it to the paint. He's miles away from Bookers ability to jump shoot and I didn't really like Booker taking as many 3s as he did.

 

[Gravy79]

Then why are you on a basketball forum in June if you don't want to hear speculation :shrug:

It just seems like pointless speculation. I can understand the lineup threads and who will be the main bench players but what's the point of trying to guess minutes?

 

[Admiral]

It just seems like pointless speculation. I can understand the lineup threads and who will be the main bench players but what's the point of trying to guess minutes?

Just trying to say that while I don't see SDW as a starter, I see him playing starters minutes (ala Tyrus)

You can list depth charts all day but if you don't but multiple postions and minutes they don't make much sense.

My just putting everyone on depth chart once no minutes version is this

Kane / Morris / Bubu / Naz
Thomas / SDW / Bluford
Hogue
Ejim
Niang / Gibson

See doesn't make much sense and isn't very original unless you show how all those guards can get minutes elsewhere and how we can get the frontcourt guys some rest. In basketball, depth charts without minutes are nearly useless because lots of times bench guys play more than starters.

 

[RezClone]

Somehow, Percy has become the topic of this thread as well. Wonder if he visits these message boards?

 

[Gravy79]

Just trying to say that while I don't see SDW as a starter, I see him playing starters minutes (ala Tyrus)

You can list depth charts all day but if you don't but multiple postions and minutes they don't make much sense.

My just putting everyone on depth chart once no minutes version is this

Kane / Morris / Bubu / Naz
Thomas / SDW / Bluford
Hogue
Ejim / Nader
Niang / Gibson / Edozie

See doesn't make much sense and isn't very original unless you show how all those guards can get minutes elsewhere and how we can get the frontcourt guys some rest. In basketball, depth charts without minutes are nearly useless because lots of times bench guys play more than starters.

You don't have to list minutes for it to make sense. The only reason yours doesn't make sense is that you listed Nader

 

[RezClone]

You don't have to list minutes for it to make sense. The only reason yours doesn't make sense is that you listed Nader

Indeed

 

[Admiral]

You don't have to list minutes for it to make sense. The only reason yours doesn't make sense is that you listed Nader

Disagree, just looking at mine, it appears Hogue is getting most if not all of our SF minutes, because he's the only one. When in reality I think a majority of our time will be spent in 3-guard lineups with Kane and SDW there.

Once again it doesn't really matter cause you can just ignore the numbers if you choose too and I didn't mind putting then up there cause I feel they make it easier to understand my depth chart, so whats it really matter

 

[RezClone]

I see zero benefit to having a 6'9" guy who has never shown any flashes of being good at shooting the 3 shoot threes. I'd rather he pass or take it to the paint. He's miles away from Bookers ability to jump shoot and I didn't really like Booker taking as many 3s as he did.

I was also at the games last night, and I can think of ONE benefit...

That being not getting your surgically repaired finger smacked around by much more inspired (or less "lazy") post guys form JUCCO or DIII (who are short but are both good athletes and actually did play quite hard). Scott Bruxvoort and Seth Light (both played against Percy last night) are both tough kids who seemed to be playing to impress last night, and they weren't just going to give up easy buckets down low. I can remember several fouls being called on both players down low, and I don't believe any of them were on Percy. Maybe he was trying to protect his hand????

 

[Admiral]

No...I really don't. If he can hit a 10-12 foot baseline jumper that's plenty. Now isn't the time to be trying to add a 3 point shot. Heck, if he can figure out a way to hit a baby hook right handed instead of having to go left that'd be huge. We have plenty of people capable of shoot a 3...we need some sort of presence on the inside to open up those shooters. I want to see Percy capable of drawing a double so he can catch and find the open shooter when the double collapses.

Doubt that happens, if our shooters are anything like expected. Even if he improves, Big 12 teams would love to see Percy try and beat them and won't leave Hoiberg's shooters.