Not so. You need more quality opponents to get the ranking up. Nine regular conference games is probably not enough. Has any of top two schools in BCS played in last five years without a post season conference playoff?
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I think examples can be found on both sides of the equation. I think the thinking was that in the old Big XII the championship game hurt because the disparity between the north and south was so great, so you could be facing the 4th or 5th best team in the conference in the championship game. It can help, but you need to get parity between divisions for the game to actually help.
If Quinn Sharp doesn't barely miss a FG attempt in Ames in 2011, Okie St would have played in the national title game. Having Okie St play in a conference title game after the ISU game would have decreased their odds of playing in the national title game. Generally speaking, playing one more game against a high quality opponent in a conference title game greatly increases the odds of incurring one more loss and removing that team from national title game/playoff consideration.
That is the reason why the SEC, P12 and B10 all want the B12 to expand and have a CCG. They know it helps the B12 to not have one in the current format and it will likely help them in the new 4-team playoff format.
But you could also say that if Ok St had a conference championship game that year against a quality opponent they may have made it into the championship game despite the loss to us. They barely came up short un points to Bama. The door swings both ways.
I'm sure Oky State wishes they could have played a conference championship game as one more quality win would very likely have put them into the nc game. I thought they should have been in anyway after they blew out Oklahoma, and based on the lousy tv ratings for the Bama-LSU game, the rest of the country seemed to feel the same way. Count me with those that want the Big 12 to have 12 teams.
I still think that there is going to be a bunch of movement after the Maryland lawsuit is settled. I doubt the B1G and SEC stay at 14. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the B12 cant hold a title game with 10 as the new comish asked that they will look hard at going to 12 especially if the SEC and B1G have went to 16 and taken 4 ACC schools. Still think UCONN ends up in the ACC
There's a lot of "dumb" in conference alignment right now...14-team conferences, MU in the SEC, WVU in the Big 12, conference mates with little in common, TV networks dictating conference direction, etc. "Dumb" corrects itself over time (many times by failure)...it causes a lot of problems and wastes resources along the way, but it does correct itself because reality demands it.
It may take 10 years or more, but IMO some sanity will eventually return to college athletics. Unfortunately, there will probably be more carnage along the way.
It may take 10 years or more, but IMO some sanity will eventually return to college athletics. Unfortunately, there will probably be more carnage along the way.
remember when the WAC was a 16 team league? Its going to be very interesting to see what happens when we get into 5 and 6 years of 14-16 team conferences
Wow, we've gone back to the WAC example once again.
A 16-team SEC or Big 10 has absolutely nothing in common with that WAC, other than they both had 16 teams. That WAC's footprint covered 2/3 of the nation (huge traveling expenses) and were made up of schools in either non-populous states or schools in large cities where largely nobody cared about them. They had no TV deal whatsoever and the schools made jack ****. The SEC and Big 10 don't have anywhere close to the same size of geographical footprint and are mostly made up of large schools. Each school brings in many millions of dollars in TV money every year.
But yeah, the 16-team WAC is the same thing as a 16-team SEC or Big 10...
Agree with this. Wish it weren't the case, but SEC and Big 10 are going to thrive $ wise as they grow.
I think the BIg and SEC are going to be watered down, and are already feeling that way.
10 teams are ideal, but we won't let an opportunity get by if 2 top tier teams free up.
NCAA doesn't want any more drama so they may grant a 10 team conference with a championship game.
10 teams are ideal, but we won't let an opportunity get by if 2 top tier teams free up.
NCAA doesn't want any more drama so they may grant a 10 team conference with a championship game.
oh im not saying it wont work because of the fact that that $ talks and both the SEC and B1G will make enough. Those 2 also differ from wac in the sense they are BCS programs and not mid majors. The only think those 2 conferences have in common with the WAC is that because they will likely be at 16 your going to have times where some schools never see others in the season
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