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***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

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DistrictCyclone said:
This is what I don't get, either. There are already loads of alumni and fans of Big Ten schools on the East Coast; does adding two relatively anemic football programs really enhance their presence in the mid-Atlantic states? It seems like a marginal increase at best.
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Yes for Maryland, no for Rutgers unless Fox along with the YES network can strongarm the cable companies to put the Big 10 network on basic cable in New York.
 
Clark said:
Yes for Maryland, no for Rutgers unless Fox along with the YES network can strongarm the cable companies to put the Big 10 network on basic cable in New York.
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I imagine they'll encounter similar problems with getting the Big Ten network on basic cable in the DC metro.
 
Screw the haters. Let's get:

FSU
Clemson
Louisville
Cincinnati

I don't care if it means less money. It sounds like fun.
 
DistrictCyclone said:
I imagine they'll encounter similar problems with getting the Big Ten network on basic cable in the DC metro.
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maybe. They'll still have Baltimore, and Maryland is a much bigger deal in that area than Rutgers is in New York.

Maryland makes a lot of sense. I think Rutgers is just a lottery ticket.
 
cyclonehokiece said:
I can see this as another few unconsequential moves with concern to the Big 12. Maryland and Rutgers to B1G, UConn to ACC, Big East cries, takes some Conference USA teams. Don't see SEC going beyond 14, Pac-12 will hold serve, and it seems that Big 12 is convinced 10 is where they want to be.

But I will say, no one really knows what is going on with conference realignment so this will all be probably be proven wrong in a couple of days. Let conference realignment 3.0 begin.
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We're full steam ahead to four 16 team superconferences now, but this time I think the ACC will be the conference that falls apart instead of the B12. Delaney is always two or three steps ahead of everyone else, the B10 will get to 16 and quite possibly kill the ACC in doing so.
 
MNCyGuy said:
A few random thoughts. I haven't read the thread so I'm sure these are all well worn territory:

-I'm not a television executive, but I don't understand this move by the Big Ten at all. If this is about Tier-1 rights and not growing BTN, I would think the focus would be on generating match-ups attractive to a national audience, not grabbing mythical sleeping giant TV markets. Surely they would have fetched more money for their rights just based on that being the trend without resorting to adding two non-factor teams.
-UConn fans and administration must be besides themselves with glee today. This is the absolute last year you'd want to try and convince Notre Dame that joining the ACC full time is the right move for them, so I have to think that UConn is now the most obvious choice to even up the ACC's numbers.
-I'm not convinced this means the Big 12 has to expand or that it would be in our best interest to start that ******* match with the other conferences.
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As noted...the Big10 network gets paid by subscriber. With a team in the DC and (assuming Rutgers) NY markets...that's a crap ton of households if they can get it added to the basic package like they have everywhere else. This isn't about how good Maryland is...it's about how many tv sets are in DC and NY.
 
jboffer said:
Screw the haters. Let's get:

FSU
Clemson
Louisville
Cincinnati

I don't care if it means less money. It sounds like fun.
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Even if it were a little less money, we'd still be well ahead of where we were just a few years ago. Plus while i think we are secure now, i want this conference to be in a power position longer than the length of the grant of rights. the GoR bought us 10 years. In 10 years the big 12 needs to still be making as much money as the other conferences.
 
Clark said:
maybe. They'll still have Baltimore, and Maryland is a much bigger deal in that area than Rutgers is in New York.

Maryland makes a lot of sense. I think Rutgers is just a lottery ticket.
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You'd be surprised. Adding Baltimore alone is about like Denver or Pittsburgh (BFD), but Maryland is most definitely not as big a deal in DC as you'd think. Their stadium lies within the Beltway and they struggle to get more than 35k in there for most games. VT, Penn State, and Notre Dame (and possibly UVA and UNC) seem to have a much bigger presence here than the "local" team.
 
CyJack13 said:
We're full steam ahead to four 16 team superconferences now, but this time I think the ACC will be the conference that falls apart instead of the B12. Delaney is always two or three steps ahead of everyone else, the B10 will get to 16 and quite possibly kill the ACC in doing so.
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If this is true, then what's the PAC going to do?
 
CyJack13 said:
We're full steam ahead to four 16 team superconferences now, but this time I think the ACC will be the conference that falls apart instead of the B12. Delaney is always two or three steps ahead of everyone else, the B10 will get to 16 and quite possibly kill the ACC in doing so.
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Yeah, the big ten wants those ACC schools, which is good for us. The state of Texas won't let UT leave without all the little brothers, so that and the GOR should keep the big 12 safe. I think this seems plausible. Although not sure anyone goes full on to 16 until ND is off the table.

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Also, not sure Rutgers is a done deal, I could see the big 10 pulling what they did to Mizzou, and swoop down to UNC or Ga Tech instead of Rutgers.


  1. Maryland, a charter member of the ACC, leaves the troubled conference for the Big 10.
  2. The SEC extends an invitation to Virginia Tech which the Hokies accept. The SEC will tell the nation they are happy with 15 and do not plan to expand to 16 anytime soon.
  3. Virginia Tech’s departure will cause UVA and Georgia Tech to accept invitations to the Big 10 which will bring the Big 10 to 16 members.
  4. Once UVA and Georgia Tech have announced the SEC will reach out and invite UNC. UNC seeing the writing on the wall with 5 ACC schools having announced departure will accept that invitation.
  5. FSU and Clemson will be livid at the implosion of the ACC and accept invitations from the Big 12. The Big 12 will also add Louisville and NC State to reach 14.
  6. The ACC will poach enough teams from the Big East to sustain itself as a viable basketball league.
  7. The Big 12 will decide 14 is hard to manage and add Miami and Pitt from the ACC to reach 16.
 
DistrictCyclone said:
You'd be surprised. Adding Baltimore alone is about like Denver or Pittsburgh (BFD), but Maryland is most definitely not as big a deal in DC as you'd think. Their stadium lies within the Beltway and they struggle to get more than 35k in there for most games. VT, Penn State, and Notre Dame (and possibly UVA and UNC) seem to have a much bigger presence here than the "local" team.
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I'm just going by Scott Van Pelt. He is a Maryland grad so he's not unbiased though. His show this afternoon should be interesting.
 
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