Strange - Realignment is happening without a single tweet from Chip Brown. Is that even legal?!?!
***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***
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I don't doubt that rebecacy is well connected within ISU, and I also don't doubt that Boren was telling select Big 12 schools that OU was just bluffing to get concessions. That doesn't mean that OU was bluffing.
The info that was leaked from the Pac 12 side suggesting that OU was already talking with the Pac 12 back in the fall of 2010 would seem to indicate that OU wasn't bluffing. Perhaps the bluff scenario was just Boren covering his tail after that info was leaked. I asked rebecacy to address this, but he never did.
Its thedudeofwv, so take with an entire shaker of salt, but:
The Dude of WV @theDudeofWV
Folks.. FSU & Clemson have been talking to the Big 12 hot & heavy for over a month. Waiting for the fall...
The Dude of WV @theDudeofWV
Folks.. FSU & Clemson have been talking to the Big 12 hot & heavy for over a month. Waiting for the fall...
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Everything I've read has stated that UConn is the leading candidate to fill UMD's slot in the ACC, but does anyone think there's a chance that the ACC tries to strong-arm Notre Dame into becoming a full-member?
I think FSU and Clemson are what made Maryland nervous. If they were "All-In" to the ACC, I don't think Maryland makes this move.
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Could be, but I doubt that's the sole factor. $ appears to be a big driver, especially for a school with a financially-troubled athletic department and with a sugar-daddy booster (Under Armor guy) who just unloaded a bunch of stock to presumably cover their $50m buyout to the ACC.
Right now would be the worst possible time to do that. ND is back to #1 as an independent. Would be impossible to convince alumni that they absolutely need to give independence up when present evidence says they can still win it all as an independent program.
Plus i think ND only went ACC because theyre the only ones that would accept them as a partial. Sounded like the big 10 had refused similar terms (especially giving access to our bowls)
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I'm trying to figure out who would have the upper-hand between the ACC and ND: obviously ND adds a lot of value to the ACC's TV deal and they don't want to jeopardize that, but theoretically, the ACC could tell ND's olympic sports to start looking for another home if push came to shove...would that be enough to entice ND to become a full member?
I think the X-factor might be the NBC contract; if ND doesn't get what they want when it's time to renegotiate, it might be financially worthwhile to join ACC in full. Similarly, maybe the ACC could somehow work NBC to persuade ND into full membership?
If ND had to join as a full member would they join the ACC or go elsewhere (b10 or b12). They'd probably be better suited by going elsewhere.
A few random thoughts. I haven't read the thread so I'm sure these are all well worn territory:
-I'm not a television executive, but I don't understand this move by the Big Ten at all. If this is about Tier-1 rights and not growing BTN, I would think the focus would be on generating match-ups attractive to a national audience, not grabbing mythical sleeping giant TV markets. Surely they would have fetched more money for their rights just based on that being the trend without resorting to adding two non-factor teams.
-UConn fans and administration must be besides themselves with glee today. This is the absolute last year you'd want to try and convince Notre Dame that joining the ACC full time is the right move for them, so I have to think that UConn is now the most obvious choice to even up the ACC's numbers.
-I'm not convinced this means the Big 12 has to expand or that it would be in our best interest to start that ******* match with the other conferences.
-I'm not a television executive, but I don't understand this move by the Big Ten at all. If this is about Tier-1 rights and not growing BTN, I would think the focus would be on generating match-ups attractive to a national audience, not grabbing mythical sleeping giant TV markets. Surely they would have fetched more money for their rights just based on that being the trend without resorting to adding two non-factor teams.
-UConn fans and administration must be besides themselves with glee today. This is the absolute last year you'd want to try and convince Notre Dame that joining the ACC full time is the right move for them, so I have to think that UConn is now the most obvious choice to even up the ACC's numbers.
-I'm not convinced this means the Big 12 has to expand or that it would be in our best interest to start that ******* match with the other conferences.
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ACC may offer the easiest path into the playoff (depending on how important a factor SOS is in the selection process), but you'd think either Big Ten or Big 12 would be able to offer more TV $.
Ask FSU how that path has led them this season. 1 loss and not even in the top 25 in some polls? Wow.
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This is what I don't get, either. There are already loads of alumni and fans of Big Ten schools on the East Coast; does adding two relatively anemic football programs really enhance their presence in the mid-Atlantic states? It seems like a marginal increase at best.
I can see this as another few unconsequential moves with concern to the Big 12. Maryland and Rutgers to B1G, UConn to ACC, Big East cries, takes some Conference USA teams. Don't see SEC going beyond 14, Pac-12 will hold serve, and it seems that Big 12 is convinced 10 is where they want to be.
But I will say, no one really knows what is going on with conference realignment so this will all be probably be proven wrong in a couple of days. Let conference realignment 3.0 begin.
Eh maybe but I'll still feel bad. I don't think I'd even wish that experience on Nebraska or Iowa.
Some of us never worried one bit and still won't. ISU will be playing major college football for the foreseeable future. Too bad for Wolfman Jack this time around though; no more B12 death clocks or ISU demotion boner jams by him or the retards on his joke of a website...
They might try it, but notre dame won't bite. I think if they have to be a full member somewhere it will be the big 10 or big 12. they just don't seem like a fit in the acc
This is the best part. B10 fans loooove to talk about parity and how many different programs have won championships since PSU joined. That means less championships for the ole Hawkeyes.
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