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Will Whole Foods still be around in 5 years

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Most food our family eats is perishable. We go through a about 6 pints of cherry tomatoes, 6 pints of blueberries, 6 pints of strawberries and 8-10 avocados a week. The only place I can afford all of this on a regular basis is Aldi. Blueberries at $1.50 a pint is a steal, and it's the same brand that Cub carries. That being said, we only buy produce at Aldi. They sell a lot of crap processed food, and we really limit the amount of processed food we eat, if we eat any. We go to Trader Joe's for other vegetables, eggs, olive oil, coconut oil etc. Meat is spendy here, so we went with a 1/4 grass fed beef (starting an internet fight) and only buy chicken at groceries. I'd like to find a local source for the chickens.

I miss the Fairway (spelling is correct) in Brooklyn as it was by far the best grocery store I've ever been in. Reasonable prices (more than here, but less than whole foods) and they had everything with a good butcher to boot.
 
Hawkeye11en1 said:
Exactly. It is higher quality whether people want to admit it or not. Seafood especially. They have stuff that is on a different level than most grocery stores.
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I have no idea why people apply a different standard to food and every other product in the universe. Do they expect to get the world's best HDTV for $180? That's no different than saying you get the exact same food at Aldi and Whole Foods.
 
BKLYNCyclone said:
Most food our family eats is perishable. We go through a about 6 pints of cherry tomatoes, 6 pints of blueberries, 6 pints of strawberries and 8-10 avocados a week. The only place I can afford all of this on a regular basis is Aldi. Blueberries at $1.50 a pint is a steal, and it's the same brand that Cub carries. That being said, we only buy produce at Aldi. They sell a lot of crap processed food, and we really limit the amount of processed food we eat, if we eat any. We go to Trader Joe's for other vegetables, eggs, olive oil, coconut oil etc. Meat is spendy here, so we went with a 1/4 grass fed beef (starting an internet fight) and only buy chicken at groceries. I'd like to find a local source for the chickens.

I miss the Fairway (spelling is correct) in Brooklyn as it was by far the best grocery store I've ever been in. Reasonable prices (more than here, but less than whole foods) and they had everything with a good butcher to boot.
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Have you tried specialty fruit stores? In Chicago the year round fruit markets are usually cheaper than even Wal-Mart and Aldi. A lot of times I can get all organic cheaper at a fruit market than crappy fruits/veggies that taste like chemicals at low end places. WF fruit/veg is incredible but 3x what I pay at these little markets

My closest farmer's market is priced just as high as Whole Foods unfortunately.
 
HFCS said:
Hawkeye11en1 said:
Exactly. It is higher quality whether people want to admit it or not. Seafood especially. They have stuff that is on a different level than most grocery stores.
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I have no idea why people apply a different standard to food and every other product in the universe. Do they expect to get the world's best HDTV for $180? That's no different than saying you get the exact same food at Aldi and Whole Foods.
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Again I haven't been to Aldi since I was a kid but in my mind its very low quality. I will pay extra for a Whole Foods or HyVee just to have a better shopping experience and also I believe a much higher quality product.

Same with Target over Wal Mart. Does almost every Wal Mart have to be a straight up dump?
 
Whole Foods will have some superior products. They will also have some superior priced products that are no better. It's not like comparing TV's. It has been proven time after time that if you do a blind taste tests with many products people are all over the map. This is not a slam at Whole Foods, everyone in retail does this. This is the reason that companies like Bose, Monster Cable, etc are still in business.

Some products deserve a premium price but just because an item has a premium price, fancy labeling, etc doesn't mean that it's better.
 
Mr Janny said:
same way with Dahls.

There's a market for so called "premium" goods, whether or not they actually are better or not. Look at generics versus name brands. A lot of times they are processed at the exact same facilities, just packaged differently. Yet, plenty of people spend more to buy the "premium." It's the same concept as Whole Foods. Doesn't make it wrong or right. That's just capitalism.
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The gov't really needs to step in and put a cap on grocery store profits. The outrage! People are willingly paying too much! We must stop people from themselves. People clearly cannot think properly and should be forced to buy their goceries based on what the gov't decides!

Pirate not considered necessary.
 
Hawkeye11en1 said:
Whole Foods is awesome. I don't shop there often, but when I want some good steaks or especially seafood, that is where I go. We do sushi at home, and their sashimi grade fish is outstanding. Also, try their BBQ pizza. It is tasty.
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McDonald's has sushi? Going to keep clear of that!
 
HFCS said:
Have you tried specialty fruit stores? In Chicago the year round fruit markets are usually cheaper than even Wal-Mart and Aldi. A lot of times I can get all organic cheaper at a fruit market than crappy fruits/veggies that taste like chemicals at low end places. WF fruit/veg is incredible but 3x what I pay at these little markets

My closest farmer's market is priced just as high as Whole Foods unfortunately.
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In NYC we had a specialty produce market that was definitely the cheapest place around. It was walking distance (albeit a long walk back uphill) and we went there for most of our produce when we had time. Farmer's market stuff here has been as spendy as whole foods... Haven't found a specialty produce place near st. paul yet.
 
The Ankeny Dahls is a ghost town. Only time I go is when I take cans back. They have the best can redemption area in Ankeny, which isn't saying much.
 
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Acylum said:
I don't get all the hate for Hy Vee. My only other choice is my small town grocery store so Hy Vee seems awesome by comparison in terms of both price and selection. I would strongly disagree with the posters saying Super Target is less expensive than Hy Vee.

Edit: I just noticed I'm an All -Star! Thanks for your votes everybody.
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Do the comparison. At least from the Hy-Vee's in the Urbandale area and the Urbandale Super Target...Target was cheaper. I can't guarantee it for every product but on the things that I buy it was a fact. I'm not hating on Hy-Vee either. I still shop there because it's convenient and I only have to make one stop...I'll pay for that. But I'm not trying to fool anyone into thinking that Hy-Vee is the cheapest alternative out there.
 
dmclone said:
Whole Foods will have some superior products. They will also have some superior priced products that are no better. It's not like comparing TV's. It has been proven time after time that if you do a blind taste tests with many products people are all over the map. This is not a slam at Whole Foods, everyone in retail does this. This is the reason that companies like Bose, Monster Cable, etc are still in business.

Some products deserve a premium price but just because an item has a premium price, fancy labeling, etc doesn't mean that it's better.
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I think we are basically talking things like seafood, meat, cheese, some bread...things like that. Those are where I want to shop at WF over a standard grocery store.

(and by "we", I mean "me")
 
HFCS said:
I have no idea why people apply a different standard to food and every other product in the universe. Do they expect to get the world's best HDTV for $180? That's no different than saying you get the exact same food at Aldi and Whole Foods.
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Actually (to be a **** ), most HDTV components are made by the same manufacturers i believe.
 
dmclone said:
Whole Foods will have some superior products. They will also have some superior priced products that are no better. It's not like comparing TV's. It has been proven time after time that if you do a blind taste tests with many products people are all over the map. This is not a slam at Whole Foods, everyone in retail does this. This is the reason that companies like Bose, Monster Cable, etc are still in business.

Some products deserve a premium price but just because an item has a premium price, fancy labeling, etc doesn't mean that it's better.
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In the trade we refer to Whole Foods as Whole Paycheck, they will be higher priced and most of their products are not any better than you can get at a competitor.
 
I do my grocery shopping where it is convienent to me. The location that WF has chosen is horrible at best. I do no business with anybody on University in that stretch of road.

Another reason I will not frequent it, it is not locally owned, as Dahl's, Hy-Vee and Fareway are.
 
I like WF for the increased selection. I do not GAF about 'organic' or 'natural' or whatever the current buzzword is. I like to think of myself as a gourmet chef (kinda :jimlad: ), and there's things WF has that not many others do. Same reason I go to Gateway Market.
 
Hawkeye11en1 said:
I'd like to see how many Whole Foods stores have been opened and then closed within 5 years. I don't know if a google search will find that, but I suppose I can try.
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I'm guessing not many have closed. You'd think that Whole Foods would have done substantial market research before committing to opening a store in any location. I'm sure West Des Moines is no different. I doubt they would have come here if they thought the odds of being successful were iffy. It wouldn't surprise me to see them expand and take over Best Buy when they finally go out of business.

We'll go check it out to see what the store is like. I've never been in one before. I like Trader Joe's and we make an effort to pick up a few things there that you can't get at a regular store. Just wish it was closer to Ames. Not worth it to drive all the way down to WDM just to pick up a couple of items unless there is another reason to go to that area.
 
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