Herman Gone? Some possible replacements
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We almost saw 3 National Championships last year from former ISU coaches (Chizik, Cael, and KJ Kindler almost won with women's gymnastics at Oklahoma).
Long-term it is a good thing, even if Herman was the best OC at ISU since McFarland.
I don't know about right for them, but I do know that he was wrong for us. I do think he is a good OC and in the right situation I think he could look like the best in the nation. ISU isn't the right situation for sure. Still, it is very unusual for someone to look as unremarkable as he has at ISU and get a promotion up to one of the elite programs in America.
Maybe Meyer did see it just like you say. My question is, what about Herman caught Meyers eye? Did someone suggest him to Meyer. Did Herman approach Meyer? Did Meyer just see a ISU game and think, I like this guy? At a glance he hasn't been impressive, what made Meyer look closer?
If our offense could protect the ball and make field goals, our numbers would look a hell of a lot better. There isn't much Herman can do about those.
And Urban Meyer shares an agent with Tom Herman according to a buddy that works in the Jacobson Building. Same buddy said all coaches had job security and raises coming their way.
And Urban Meyer shares an agent with Tom Herman according to a buddy that works in the Jacobson Building. Same buddy said all coaches had job security and raises coming their way.
This would make more sense.
I think my questions were legit based on what we knew. There had to be something that brought Herman to Meyers attention. He doesn't have the numbers where someone would say I'm going to go get the best and the best is Tom Herman. I've never doubted Herman to be a good OC and outside the call at KSU a few weeks ago I think he is the best play caller we have had in as long as I can remember.
Best of luck to TH and I hope we get someone that is a little better fit for ISU.
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The calls at the ends of the Iowa, UConn, Okie State games are heart stopping, bold, and very, very Florida-esque. To say that there weren't some explosive and surprising offensive plays this year is to have missed the game.
The offensive execution against Texas Tech was elite. No other way to see it.
Trust me, there are plenty of gamebreaking plays that were the result of offensive execution that make any football coach stand up and take notice.
You don't get that explosion on accident, even if even more offensive plays are left on the table due to execution. I honestly don't know what plays I would have called different this year (maybe a handful, but negligible). What held us back was dropped passes, untimely (not systemic, just bonehead, hamhanded or just plain error) interceptions in the redzone.
With improved execution, we score at least 14 more against KU, Texas and maybe even 21 at Baylor.
Freshman Center. Freshman back-up QB. Short receivers who occasionally wear mittens to outdoor games.
Urban Myer looks at all this, plugs in the best talent on the planet...and his mouth starts to water.
Maybe his insight is off. Maybe he's stuck with 23 points/game.
But I don't think he looks at the accomplishments at Iowa State and sees only a defense. The defense didn't blast holes for Woody. The defense didn't toss it to Lenz for a 40-yard touchdown. The defense didn't slice away at the corners to set up breakaway sweep plays.
Yeah. I sure wish we had Ken O'Keefe at Offensive Coordinator. Nobody ever wants him.
One less thing to worry about, you know.
Jeez. I'm away for a couple hours and suddenly he's going to be an OC? Wasn't some "insider" just saying he got the boot?
I think Herman showed some really impressive calls at times...most current being the wheel route in ot...but at times I felt like we either had the zone read or a bubble screen...got really old
Except in the TT game as well as OSU - we ran quite a few bubble screens effectively. Helps when the ball is thrown well, the WR catches the ball, & the other WRs/players execute the blocks.
Even within the option-reads, there were many times the QB should have kept the ball, but that is on the players on the field, not the coach on the sideline.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the B!G
To be fair to the "insider" speculators about the non-existent "bad blood" between CPR and Herman, I think it was just their rationalization process kicking into overdrive because they, like many of us, knew that the "Genius Herman to QB" storyline was fishy. There was another shoe to drop.
They just projected a very odd (non-existent) shoe.
At least, that's my olive branch. Either that or those "insiders" were messageboard gasbags. One of the two.
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You are looking at this as an ISU fan that has listened or watched all the games (probably), youre are not looking at it from the standpoint of someone who is better acquainted with the E and SE teams and has no ties to ISU in which to watch one of our games for any reason than enjoyment.
