Big 12 North?

[chuckd4735]

Well, here's just one example, 'genius': http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/football/132404-does-alabama-deserve-rematch.html

You're completely missing the point. Even if the Big 12 is a better conference this year, Mizzou is able to compete in that conference based off the recruits they get, mainly from Texas. They are able to do that because they currently play in the most popular conference in the State of Texas (which wont be changing anytime soon) and can also guarantee there will be games played in Texas. Mizzou is going to lose both those pitches, and I just about guarantee they start losing Texas recruits to KSU, Kansas and ISU. They will now have to compete off Missouri recruits, and recruits from the SEC states. If youre a recruit from Alabama, and Aurburn and Alabama pass you up, why would you choose Missouri over Kentucky or Vanderbelt?

 

[JUKEBOX]

We're replacing this:

With this:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBWwBNYxKXg]I'm Shmacked The Movie : Trailer #3 - West Virginia University - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Stop feeding the trolls.

 

[00clone]

It's weird how some fans will claim the Big 12 is the best football conference in one thread (usually talking about Iowa or Big 10) and then in another thread say that the SEC is so much better. Which is it?

I'm pretty sure I've been one of those, and it's simple. This year, the big 12 is statistically the strongest conference in the country. WRT the big 10, they are averaging 52.5 for strength of schedule ranking right now. The Big 12 is averaging 8.1. (SEC 22). Many sports news organizations are listing the big 12 as the best football conference right now. However, that's right now. The SEC has dominated for quite a while. The 'big 12 is the best' is right now, this year. The 'SEC is the best' is recent history, and needs to be overcome before the big 12 could be considered the overall best conference. We also need to show up in the big bowls. Oklahoma has seen fit to choke in the big ones lately.

Here's the data I was using for the SOS averages:

USATODAY.com

The overall conference rankings are at the top, then each school is underneath for SOS. Look for the "SCHEDL(RANK)" column.

 

[CloneFan65]

Well, here's just one example, 'genius': http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/football/132404-does-alabama-deserve-rematch.html

and a brand-spanking new one: http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/state-rivals/132472-news-ui-played-ranked-opponent.html

So you're saying every Cyclone fan must be like-minded and have the same opinions? I think you bringing this up is pointless, but you apparently do not. Does that make us hypocrits because we disagree?

 

[stateofmind]

We're replacing this:

With this:
I'm Shmacked The Movie : Trailer #3 - West Virginia University - YouTube

Color me not excited, if that's the "good" part of having WVU. Looks like it matches their 165 academic rating...

 

[Cy$]

So you're saying every Cyclone fan must be like-minded and have the same opinions? I think you bringing this up is pointless, but you apparently do not. Does that make us hypocrits because we disagree?

that makes too much sense..it can't be...either side with me or you are WRONG BABY WRONG!!!!!!!

 

[Palmer]

Big 12 North.

Nebraska
Colorado
Missouri
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State

Only three remain.

Who's next?

**** off ****.

 

[Cyballzz]

Like any "SEC Caliber" recruit from Texas gives a **** about SMU and Rice.

Plus if SMU or Rice ever got good Missouri would just **** out of the contract and play some scrub 1AA team...

 

[Cyforce]

Why not?

So Missouri is going to schedule road games with Conference USA teams? interesting

 

[Cy$]

Well, here's just one example, 'genius': http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/football/132404-does-alabama-deserve-rematch.html

and a brand-spanking new one: http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/state-rivals/132472-news-ui-played-ranked-opponent.html

my gosh man just stop...too funny :twitcy:

your "new brand-spanking link" added 1 person who agreed....you only have about 20,000(an amount that's about 1/3 of our fan base) more people to go...keep it up

 

[CysRage]

So Missouri is going to schedule road games with Conference USA teams? interesting

They need all the cupcakes they can get...it still probably won't help them...

 

[00clone]

Color me not excited, if that's the "good" part of having WVU. Looks like it matches their 165 academic rating...

Milan Puskar stadium? I see he was in pharmaceuticals, but sheesh, that sounds hillbilly.
"hey, let's go out to old Milan Puskar's place and hunt some possum!"

 

[stateofmind]

my gosh man just stop...too funny :twitcy:

your "new brand-spanking link" added 1 person who agreed....you only have about 20,000(an amount that's about 1/3 of our fan base) more people to go...keep it up

I don't think he has to prove anything to you. Doesn't look like you will believe anything but what you want to believe. Sure, the SEC won the last five NC, but were they the best conference all five years. I'm thinking not. Either way, keep up the solid work of saying how much better the SEC is and in the process degrading the Big XII.

 

[Cy$]

I don't think he has to prove anything to you. Doesn't look like you will believe anything but what you want to believe. Sure, the SEC won the last five NC, but were they the best conference all five years. I'm thinking not. Either way, keep up the solid work of saying how much better the SEC is and in the process degrading the Big XII.

can't even argue that statement *facepalm*

The last 5 years the SEC has been better...sorry I'm being a realist...I can change my opinion on things but that's a little too much

Big 12 is in second but top to bottom the SEC is brutal...they are having a weak year this year which is saying something

 

[BooneCy]

can't even argue that statement *facepalm*

The last 5 years the SEC has been better...sorry I'm being a realist...I can change my opinion on things but that's a little too much

Big 12 is in second but top to bottom the SEC is brutal...they are having a weak year this year which is saying something

Thank you for explaining your argument with the logic of; I'm right, and I don't have to say anything further. I hope that works well for you.

 

[Cy$]

Thank you for explaining your argument with the logic of; I'm right, and I don't have to say anything further. I hope that works well for you.

(Warning: I'm being a hypocrit posting links, but I didn't think I had to back this up to many people.. but here's a couple as I don't have all day to explain this)

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/

http://www.davidstagg.com/2010/06/04/the-best-college-football-conference-in-the-past-five-years/

go to espn, foxsports, whatever and ask them this question...they are more knowledgeable than I am obviously and will mostly agree with me...jeez all you have to do is watch any sport talk show and they usually bring this up once in awhile....ask Iowa fans/ any national perspective and what would they say?

I don't get ALL my perspective just watching shows like you think...I watch SEC games on CBS frequently and even the worst team Vandy is a decent football team that would give us a game most of the time..I even agreed it's down this year but as a whole Mizzou and A&M are in a world of hurt going there.

SEC powers:Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, South Carolina(recent), Georgia, Arkansas
Big 12: Texas, Oklahoma, Okie St. (recent), Mizzou (recent), A&M(kinda, on the border), Kansas St (VERY recent)

last 5 years these are teams that have been top 10 contenders or usually in the top 25...will make it that much harder for Mizzou and A&M to dominate

 

[Mizzoulander]

Look, the premise of the the thread was "Which Big 12 North school is next to leave?"

I'm not the one who took it to such an adversarial place.

C'mon, QBU...you're trying to stir things up with the instability issue. You and I both believe that in 5-7 years, the Big 12 (if it's around) won't look anything like it does now. Very few people around here agree with that. That's not an argument that can be settled right now.

To answer the question, I think none of the B12N schools will be the "next" to leave. Only one non-Bevo program in the Big 12 remains with options for another major conference, and that's OU. If OU stays put, so will OKSt, and the Big 12 might survive.

Big 12 meltdown scenarios are pretty much limited to 1) OU to the SEC or Pac-12; and 2) UT goes football-independent. I happen to think that one or both are likely in the future, but we will see.

I don't think that Missouri benefits from a superconference structure, and I want the rest of the Midwest to stay viable in college football, so I'm hoping that the Big 12 gets its issues worked out and continues to survive.

 

[Cyballzz]

C'mon, QBU...you're trying to stir things up with the instability issue. You and I both believe that in 5-7 years, the Big 12 (if it's around) won't look anything like it does now. Very few people around here agree with that. That's not an argument that can be settled right now.

To answer the question, I think none of the B12N schools will be the "next" to leave. Only one non-Bevo program in the Big 12 remains with options for another major conference, and that's OU. If OU stays put, so will OKSt, and the Big 12 might survive.

Big 12 meltdown scenarios are pretty much limited to 1) OU to the SEC or Pac-12; and 2) UT goes football-independent. I happen to think that one or both are likely in the future, but we will see.

I don't think that Missouri benefits from a superconference structure, and I want the rest of the Midwest to stay viable in college football, so I'm hoping that the Big 12 gets its issues worked out and continues to survive.

No you don't... Please don't **** on our legs and tell us its raining. Thanks.

 

[jaretac]

It's weird how some fans will claim the Big 12 is the best football conference in one thread (usually talking about Iowa or Big 10) and then in another thread say that the SEC is so much better. Which is it?

This year the Big 12 is very very good. If the SEC didn't have LSU and Alabama so high I would say that the Big 12 is better this year because the SEC has more teams hanging on toward the bottom. Let's face it, the Big12 right now is a prime example of how less is more. This is the prime reason I want to go back to 12 teams, I don't like the SOS of having only 10.