Iowa State will beat Baylor.
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I saw the game. They were able to consistently move it up and down the field as half their drives went longer than 30 yards on you or ended in points. Of course excluding the end of half clock bleeding "drives". I am looking at the ability to consistently move the ball, not just scoring.
We felt 05 was payback for the 04 "debacle" where a fumble return TD and a WR pushoff on a key 3rd down handed the game to ISU.
OSU at 8 pm, on Friday night, second to last week of November, cold as hell? Bring them on. That game will mirror the Mizzou game last season, only difference is we have a better qb this season than the one that started that game. Cold weather is a neutralizer I don't care what anyone says.
I don't expect much punting in this game. Going with that idea, look for every turnover to equate to points. Win the turnover battle, win the game. Loose the turnover battle...
The UNI game, we are seriously discussing UNI's defense? It was Jantz's first non JUCO start since high school!! He has faced far better defenses than Baylor so far. Iowa's defense is hands down better than Baylor's, not to mention Texas'.
What I found funny about your defense of TCU's defense is that they gave up a short field to SMU for a score. Did you watch the Texas ISU game? We fumbled twice inside of our own 20. We threw an interception that was returned to our 20. We commited a personal foul after stopping a Texas drive at mid field which was another turnover giving them another possession starting at our 35. We also gave up a blocked punt for a TD. ISU's defense has been put in bad situations for the entire year. We have 13 turnovers plus two drives that were extended as a result of personal fouls after stopping them on third down. That is equivalent to 15 turnovers through four games.
It is a testament to the quality of our defense that they have held opponents to as few points as they have given the situations they have faced.
This defense is far better then the scores indicate.
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I would say we have a very good offensive line but raw talent they have us. Their handing off running game is better than ours but our pass game and QB is better.
Apples to oranges. Defending one requires some variation from the skill sets that are important against the other. For instance LBs like Knott taking on lead fullbacks isn't something critical this week as we rarely use it while DEs keeping contain against RG3 is vital where Vandenburg was not exactly a threat to score with his feet or buy much time for guys to get open.
Our WRs are very good and anyone who saw the 2008 game between us knows what Kendall Wright can do.
We shut down one of the best receivers in the country when we played Iowa. I think ISU will come ready to play this game and is capable of doing the same against Baylor. These are the games Rhoads takes over. If I was a Baylor fan, I would have hoped that ISU would have beat Texas and ISU would have come out extremely flat. I think the loss to Texas and how it happened for ISU, only opens the eyes for our players.
RGIII is one of the best QBs in this league, but he does not like pressure in his face. He can expect timely blitzes all game Saturday. I am confident our secondary can cover in space.
Well yeah....that said...niether one is as good as people would like you to beleive.
Not yet but it is on the DVR and will be watched in the next 2-3 nights along with UConn.
Going off stats right now and the 6 yards per play matches what non-defenses at Rice and UCLA gave up pretty closely. I would give ISU a pass but BYU statistically held that group in check post-gilbert benching.
I am going off my own key measures. As I said before, scores can lie about defenses and offenses. I typically look at averages per play, points driven more than 45-50 yards for, turnovers as measures of relative strength for offensive and defensive strength.
Averaging the numbers from Iowa (regulation) and UT who are the 2 good offenses you faced:
5.69 per play
4.04 per carry (no sacks)
.5 turnovers forced
19 long-distance points surrendered
11.5 short field points
Compare it to Baylor with TCU and KSU
5.24 per play
5.2 per carry (no sacks) and per pass play (all attempts & sacks together)
1 Turnover forced avg
25 long range points
18 short field points
Take away the one 63 yard KSU QB scramble and our run averages fall to 4.82 (no sacks) and our YPP is 4.99.
So both struggle and are put in bad spots. I think both are better than the average perception.
Comparisons like that have limited validity unless they are measuring common opponents.
When you watch the UCONN game you will also see that we turned the ball over three times in our own territory in the first quarter.
The good thing is that on Saturday we will get to see what happens on the field. You may very well tourch our defense with the quality of your offense, but I will be very surprised if that happens. We will play a bend but don't break defense. We give up yards between the 25s but we will stiffen considerably in the red zone.
True, but early in the season you have very little to go on. It's better than no info at all.
You guys did very well against UConn defensively. 4.4 per play, 3 turnovers, 41% passing, and 14 long distance points.
I would be surprised if you guys shut us down. Saturday will be interesting to watch. Hopefully a good game with no injuries for either side.
(No sacks) means what the offense gets per carry without the "carries" that are sacks being included. Sorry if misleading.
So say like you have 5 carries for 25 yards. Looks like 5 per carry.
Now if one was a sack for a 4 yard loss the new numbers are 4 for 24 and 6 per carry.
If ISU did not learn a lesson from last week, this game will be a blowout. RGIII is probably the best QB in the conference, and our D is going to have to play smart. We all know what RGIII can do, and how consistent he is. The X-factor is going to be how well our offense does, and if we are able to keep up with Baylor. I have no worries that CPR, Wally and Herman will have a solid game plan together to beat Baylor, and if our players are able to execute it close to flawless, we can win this game.
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