Boy, this thread has devolved. We've had game 1, which is usually pretty weak for an offense, then game 2 against a top 10 team with a great defense on their field, also usually pretty weak for an offense. I think we'll see a better ISU offense on the field Saturday than we did the first two weeks. I'm thinking 30 or more points, with 100+ yards for ARob and 50+ yards rushing for AA, and maybe 30 or 40 for SJ. I don't see more points as I think the inconsistent passing game will continue. Will 30 be enough to win with the defense getting thin in the front 7? Who knows? I'm looking for a Cyclone win, 31-27. Go State!
Can KSU stop our spread offense?
- Thread starter Cyguy4IA
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A lot of that actually is coaching. I will expand a little
- OL Run blocking- According to our coaches, our OL is as good or better than last year yet we continually miss blocking assignments. Now we replace two on the OL but Burris played last year. That falls on coaching. a good example was iowa stunting. We were not prepared nor did we adjust when it happened.
- Dropped balls- Now some receivers have a tendency to drop balls but we are seeing guys that have shown good hands in the past dropping balls. Franklin, Lenz, ARob, Williams all have multiple drops this year. I could be wrong but Darks might be the only receiver without a drop.
- WRs not getting off the bump/jam- Why is it Arnaud looked better against NIU. Looked more accurate? Well iowa was knocking our receivers off routes. There are ways to combat that but we do not do it.
- Playcalling- We have greatly improved our WR blocking (good coaching). It has shown in both games, yet when we found iowa's soft spot on the edge of the field we did not attack it. Instead we ran and threw the ball into the teeth of their defense for the second straight year.
- In game adjustments- We make none or very few. As Herman says "we are what we are, we do what we do."
It is very simple for people to blame the whole offensive struggles on Arnaud. I find it hilarious. We had 5 drives in the first half against iowa. The first two would have been extended if not for dropped passes. Tough catches, but catches that should have been made and have been made in the past. The third drive had a throw away, a tipped pass, and another drop. Again, those are not on the QB. The fourth drive had a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 7. Arnaud didn't run that route or call that play. BTW- the play would have been negated on a tripping call anyway. The fifth drive was a good drive that was halted by a BS pass interference penalty. 5 drives no points and really not the fault of the QB. We were down 28-0 at that time. Of course, he looked like crapola in the second half. He was pressing and trying to force things.
People wonder why Arnaud forces passes. Well when your receivers don't get separation then a lot of passes are going to get forced. I am not saying Arnaud doesn't need to get better. He does but the offense as a whole does not look good right now. iowa had something to do with that so we will see if it continues.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!! That is what i ssaw all day. We had success on the edges of the field yet were rarely went there. The pitch to ARo b worked well. One swing pass worked well. They worked because iowa had everyone inside the hashes. And guess what. That is where we went witht he run game and the pass.
I wouldn't call those deep as much as intermediate routes. Deep is over top the safeties. Those passes were underneath the safeties. Deep is what we threw against Nebraska and minnesota
IMO- Pass protection has been decent. Not as good as last year but last year was exceptional. even against iowa, we had time to make 90% of the throws.
We didn't his year and we didn't last year. Everything we run is down the middle of the field. Yes, the zone read is going to be down the middle but our pass plays don't need to be down the middle. Even one of our most successful playe, ARob runing the wheel route, went down the middle. Why? Why not have Arob run that down the sideline making the LB move out with him. Opens the field up for Arnaud to scramble
Huh? The whole idea of the spread is to spread the field. Spread the defense and creat space for players to make plays. That is it. The no huddle is to prevent substitutions and then allow the OC to read the defense and change the play. We don't run a "hurry up" offense. We didn't saturday and we won't 80% of the time.
BTW- The no huddle has very little effect on iowa because they don't change personnel very often.
The first two games are a continuation of last year. The playcalling against iowa was not good. Not good at all. For two straight years we run 90% of our plays into the teeth of their defense.
I liked what I saw against NIU but we didn't run that against iowa. I am with you though, we should put up numbers against KSU. Their defense is probably the worst we have senn this season.
I think all the points made in this threa are valid, the offense stinks. It hasn't been impressive since Herman got here, not blaming him, its just a fact the offense hasn't clicked yet.The pointless part about this thread is that most of these same people will consider this problem solved if we beat Kstate.
Exactly, it is pointless against the Hawks. A sped up version would work much better.
I won't. I want consistency and I want to see the offense work against decent competition. I fully expect to put up numbers on KSU. Their defense is okay at best. We faced the toughest defense we will face all year so we should see better production from here on out.
Yeah dually you are right on Austin Arnaud at Quarterback is a "BIG PROBLEM"...
This: Iowa's D is the best we will see this year. However, if KSU stops us as easily as Iowa did......lets just say it will be a LONG LONG year. That said, I think we can move the ball on K-State.
We had this problem several years ago under Dan. Everyone in the stadium knew what plays were coming.:shocked:
However, the passes were not very accurate. This was the problem. The passes were short, long, over the wrong shoulder, and too near the defender. AA also does not move around enough to get the clear open passing lanes. He has not shown a lob pass into an open area for receiver to run to. When he fathoms that, he will be much improved. If not, we very run or dumnp the ball off quick the slow, grinding way.
When the weather gets cold, how well will our receivers catch the ball when the pass is off target?
As far as coaching adjustments, it does not appear we are an adjustment team for one reason or another.
Unusual/unpredicted playcalling? Not us. Not yet.
This staff and these players all need to come together right now for this season to have major success. We cannot lose this game. We have to have it.
Hopefully this week, whatever hasn't been working....has just been thrown out the window. Our guys need to get on K-State early and often...then play the game down the stretch with some swagger.
Arnaud just needs something big to happen early for him in the game too. Whether it be a nice long pass or he takes off for a big 15 yard gain....he needs something positive very early for him to shake off the cobwebs.
These jerks in purple won last year by blocking a freaking field goal. That bitter taste is still in my mouth and I am sure it is in the players. They need to come together this weekend for one common goal, beat this mildcat team down and get payback.
Hopefully this week, whatever hasn't been working....has just been thrown out the window. Our guys need to get on K-State early and often...then play the game down the stretch with some swagger.
Arnaud just needs something big to happen early for him in the game too. Whether it be a nice long pass or he takes off for a big 15 yard gain....he needs something positive very early for him to shake off the cobwebs.
These jerks in purple won last year by blocking a freaking field goal. That bitter taste is still in my mouth and I am sure it is in the players. They need to come together this weekend for one common goal, beat this mildcat team down and get payback.
