Obesity

8 pages of opinions and it doesn't sound like one fat person(maybe I'm the only one) has chimed in but let me be the first.

I'm fat!

I like to eat. I like cake, beer, chocolate, bbq, etc. My wife is an excellent cook who cooks us a great meal every night and when we go out to eat it's not to eat salad.


I probably weigh 40lbs more than what I should but I'm not going to stress out over it. I could exercise more but I prefer to watch TV and play on the PC. I go to the gym about 3 times a week and could probably run further than 99% of the people on CF (just not fast).

I know my problem is too many calories going in and not enough going out. I once lost 30lbs when I was younger and I liked the results but I was constantly worrying about what I ate. At this point in my life I'd rather just be 40lbs over weight and not micro-manage what I eat. I think overall I'm relatively healthy but maybe I'm cutting 5 years off my life by being overweight. So I'm going to die at 85 instead of 90. Good, I have no urge to live to 90.

Has being 40lbs overweight stopped me from doing anything? I can't think of anything. I don't wear wife beaters or speedo's. I'm more likely to sweat. The only thing I could think of is that I would like to buy an MV Agusta sport bike but I'd probably look rather silly and be uncomfortable so I guess that's one thing I regret. I've been happily with the same woman for the last 15 years and before that I didn't seem to have a problem meeting woman (both big and small).

BTW-To the person who can eat anything and still remain skinny. Be careful. I went to my 20 year reunion and the guy we called "bones" has put on about 80lbs. It's weird because if you looked at his legs you'd still think he weighed 140lbs but above that it's not pretty.
Damn I wish I knew I was going to live to 90, who hooked you up with that info?
 
I always laugh about the people who describe our food system as unsafe when the two biggest health issues in this country are obesity and the increase of extended age. Dementia /Altizhemers was not a serious concern in decades past but with better medicine, food etc. people live longer and now we haave issues related to "living too long". Yeah, people are overweight and on average more than a little. But I expect that all the fatties will live longer than the generation before them. My point is that "corn" does not kill people. I read recently that the average male in the USA gains 50 lbs. in his lifetime post high school and I think that is generally accurate. On average, that is not going to kill anybody. The obese are different. My point is there is a difference between fat and obese. dmclone has a valid point.

I'd wager that, clinically speaking, if you see someone that is 40 lbs "overweight", they are obese (I'm not talking about the outlier body builders who don't look overweight, but would certainly be so just comparing height/weight). All those studies that detail the health pitfalls of obesity apply to people in that category. 40 lbs is a lot of extra weight to carry around!

Gaining 50 lbs post high school is one thing when you came out of high school at a healthy weight. That's not always the case these days. Though Iowa is highly ranked, the rate of childhood obesity is alarming, especially in the south. I think it was something like 40% of kids under 18 in Mississippi are clinically obese now. Put another 50 lbs on them, and that's potentially morbidly obese.

I'm a good 40-50lbs heavier than I was in high school, but I was also probably 10% body fat in high school. Say I gained 20 lbs of muscle, and 20 lbs of fat, and I'm still in the "healthy" 20% body fat range. That's way different than someone starting at 25% body fat and putting on another 10%.
 
Regarding weighing yourself everyday, I maintain it is good practice. You get a feel for your body. You learn what is a normal range for you to weigh in the morning, midday, evening, etc. Can adjust your intake if necessary (up or down). For example, I usually have a snack in the evening, but I will weigh myself beforehand and if I am near the upper end or above the upper end of what I like to weigh, I will either hold off or eat something very light.
I also exercise daily (have for 21yrs) and do my best to eat pretty much the same diet each day (breakfast and lunch for sure but dinner usually varies).

Genetics do play a role for sure and it is easier for some, but there is no reason to let yourself get out of hand. Anyone can control that with relative ease IMO.
If you're the type of person that is going to freak out about every ounce you gain then weighing yourself every day is going to be terrible for you. You'll fluctuate even a couple pounds depending on all sorts of factors.

I weigh myself every day because I'm not worried about that, but for some it could be counter productive.
 
I always laugh about the people who describe our food system as unsafe when the two biggest health issues in this country are obesity and the increase of extended age. Dementia /Altizhemers was not a serious concern in decades past but with better medicine, food etc. people live longer and now we haave issues related to "living too long". Yeah, people are overweight and on average more than a little. But I expect that all the fatties will live longer than the generation before them. My point is that "corn" does not kill people. I read recently that the average male in the USA gains 50 lbs. in his lifetime post high school and I think that is generally accurate. On average, that is not going to kill anybody. The obese are different. My point is there is a difference between fat and obese. dmclone has a valid point.


the thing is, fatties have a lot more health problems at an earlier age than the healthy counterpart. By healthy i dont mean a twig that barely eats and doesn't exercise. Being fat and obese not only has its health problems, its also an eye sore. I'm sure the world would be a happier place if you see overall better looking people around. Its like when u see a girl from high school that was really pretty back in the day, but after years of drinking and partying she becomes a fat and ugly looking, and you can't picture her looking pretty when she was younger because that image is now stuck in your head.
 
Do you think this was bad for me?



P3210013.JPG
 
Well water is technically free, for the most part. The point is that soda tastes good, and is cheap enough to not be prohibitively expensive for most people. If water is a Toyota Yarus, soda is an Escalade that costs 1k more.

3.17 per person for a family of 4 is almost 13 bucks a meal. If you can feed the same family for 5 bucks (which isn't too hard to do with a couple of boxes of your favorite boxed meal some low grade meat and butter and whatnot), that's 7 dollars a day you're saving. Almost 50 dollars a week, and maybe 200 dollars a month. For poor families that's a lot of money. Hell, for middle class families that's a lot of money.

I'm not saying it's not possible to eat cheap and healthy, it's just much harder. Is some of it being lazy? Sure. Maybe even most of it. But when faced with eating like crap and being able to afford an iPhone, and eating healthy and having to play with sticks in the front yard, which one do you think our current culture favors, or even promotes?

There have also been a couple of studies done that compare the physiological feeling of eating fatty foods packed with simple sugars with doing drugs, and a lot of the same cravings are triggered.

I would also postulate that the south is generally fatter because a lot of their traditional foods and meals are very unhealthy for people with a sedentary lifestyle (watch Paula Dean cook sometime). Eating like a farmhand is great if you're a farmhand - hell it's essential - but if your'e not a farmhand, you're going to get fat.



?? what meal can you make thats actually filling for $1.25? besides getting pasta with no sauce, or bread with nothing on it.

gotta keep in mind, that 3.17 is just for me, a person that has to buy in smaller portions because it would rot if i could buy in bulk as a family of 4. The more you buy the cheaper it can get. Like i said how you can get 40 cuts of flank steak for 50 bucks. you can get 90/10 ground beef for .80 cents a patty. for the price for 10 peices of fried chicken, you could get 2 whole chickens, bake em, and get sides.

boxed meals have to make a profit somehow, if you shop correctly perishable foods are a lot cheaper than the pre packaged crap
 
This thread is just offensive, its a life style that people choose and why should you care if you are so disgusted by overweight people maybe you should just stay inside and workout more. You dont think they realize that they are living an unhealthy lifestyle? Its their choice, some people dont always have access to workout equipment, money for healthier foods, or time to work out. Yes some people are just lazy but others may have medical conditions, suffer from poverty, or suffer from something else. Leave it be if you dont like it, dont go out simple as that.
 
I do not care what other people look like. Technically, obesity impacts health care costs for all of us and is a driver in the high cost of health insurance. That is why some companies have in-house exercise programs or a reward program with reduced premiums for those that meet certain criteria. So yeah, other people's lifestyles impact all of us.
 
This thread is just offensive, its a life style that people choose and why should you care if you are so disgusted by overweight people maybe you should just stay inside and workout more. You dont think they realize that they are living an unhealthy lifestyle? Its their choice, some people dont always have access to workout equipment, money for healthier foods, or time to work out. Yes some people are just lazy but others may have medical conditions, suffer from poverty, or suffer from something else. Leave it be if you dont like it, dont go out simple as that.

Does poverty and lack of access to workout equipment keep people from going outside and walking, or eating less? No, it does not.
 
That may be, but normal healthy people can get cancer and have heart attacks to. There are 2 women i work with who have worked out their whole lives and both were diagnosed with cancer within a 6 months time period at a young age of mid 40s so its not just fat people getting sick.
 
This thread is just offensive, its a life style that people choose and why should you care if you are so disgusted by overweight people maybe you should just stay inside and workout more. You dont think they realize that they are living an unhealthy lifestyle? Its their choice, some people dont always have access to workout equipment, money for healthier foods, or time to work out. Yes some people are just lazy but others may have medical conditions, suffer from poverty, or suffer from something else. Leave it be if you dont like it, dont go out simple as that.
There is little to nothing offensive about this thread. Its not that they don't realize it, its that they don't care, and we all end up paying for it because like below, your health insurance premiums take into account the 40 year old walking heart attack. 99% of the population has access to workout equipment (If you can walk, you can work out), money for healthier foods (that bag of applies is cheaper than the Oreos you just bought), and time to work out (there are very few, if any people who don't have time to go out on a walk or jog instead of watching TV or playing on the computer). What you just gave are a bunch of excuses.
I do not care what other people look like. Technically, obesity impacts health care costs for all of us and is a driver in the high cost of health insurance. That is why some companies have in-house exercise programs or a reward program with reduced premiums for those that meet certain criteria. So yeah, other people's lifestyles impact all of us.
 
as a former obese person who weight 400 lbs, I would say it isn't especially something you choose, it just creeps up on you. At some point you know you need to change but we all know that long lasting change is extremely hard to do.

Like a lot of guys, I could eat anything and everything when younger, then between school and work 70+ hours a week, all I had time for was fast food, delivery, and carry out. Exercise? Who has time for that in our money driven economy?

I think there are several problems.

1The general public has no understanding at all of nutrition.
2: Convenience food (see my blog on trans fat - Health Transformation)
3: Exercise is easier said then done.
4: have you looked at a school menu lately?
5: Things that used to be special treats only once and a while (such as pop) are now considered constant food.
6: Have you ever tried to eat healthy in a restaurant? Not easy, and even then the nutritional value is suspect - white rice, etc.
7. Exercising is easy for those who "know" how to do it, otherwise the gym is very very intimidating, and the cardio machines get boring pretty quick.

And for people like me, I can't be around my families much because the food they eat is absolutely horrible. For most obese people, they know they are overweight, but feel trapped and do not know how to "cope" or change. I consider myself lucky that I had professional people teach me about nutrition/how to eat and how to exercise. It requires a complete lifestyle change that according to a study at U of W, must be sustained for 9-15 months for habitual change to have officially occurred.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jumbopackage
That may be, but normal healthy people can get cancer and have heart attacks to. There are 2 women i work with who have worked out their whole lives and both were diagnosed with cancer within a 6 months time period at a young age of mid 40s so its not just fat people getting sick.
Please tell me with a straight face that people who live a healthier lifestyle are as statistically likely to have troubles with illnesses and other health problems?
 
That may be, but normal healthy people can get cancer and have heart attacks to. There are 2 women i work with who have worked out their whole lives and both were diagnosed with cancer within a 6 months time period at a young age of mid 40s so its not just fat people getting sick.

I guess you can rely on evidence of just two people you know and ignore the overwhelming statistically valid evidence against the dangers of obesity if that works better for you
 
as a former obese person who weight 400 lbs, I would say it isn't especially something you choose, it just creeps up on you. At some point you know you need to change but we all know that long lasting change is extremely hard to do.

Like a lot of guys, I could eat anything and everything when younger, then between school and work 70+ hours a week, all I had time for was fast food, delivery, and carry out. Exercise? Who has time for that in our money driven economy?

I think there are several problems.

1The general public has no understanding at all of nutrition.
2: Convenience food (see my blog on trans fat - Health Transformation)
3: Exercise is easier said then done.
4: have you looked at a school menu lately?
5: Things that used to be special treats only once and a while (such as pop) are now considered constant food.
6: Have you ever tried to eat healthy in a restaurant? Not easy, and even then the nutritional value is suspect - white rice, etc.
7. Exercising is easy for those who "know" how to do it, otherwise the gym is very very intimidating, and the cardio machines get boring pretty quick.

And for people like me, I can't be around my families much because the food they eat is absolutely horrible. For most obese people, they know they are overweight, but feel trapped and do not know how to "cope" or change. I consider myself lucky that I had professional people teach me about nutrition/how to eat and how to exercise. It requires a complete lifestyle change that according to a study at U of W, must be sustained for 9-15 months for habitual change to have officially occurred.

Thank you, i am in a similar situation when i graduated high school i was fit and in shape at about 6'4 195 not i have put on a lot of weight do to injuring myself, tons of road time for my job, and lack of time to workout due to my work schedule. When i do actually go work out its hard to get back into things. I have feet problems and knee problems from football injuries so running really isnt an option for me.
 
This thread is just offensive, its a life style that people choose and why should you care if you are so disgusted by overweight people maybe you should just stay inside and workout more. You dont think they realize that they are living an unhealthy lifestyle? Its their choice, some people dont always have access to workout equipment, money for healthier foods, or time to work out. Yes some people are just lazy but others may have medical conditions, suffer from poverty, or suffer from something else. Leave it be if you dont like it, dont go out simple as that.


bs, if you have time to talk on message boards, you have time to workout, if you have time to watch tv, you have time to workout, you dont need equipment to workout.

Also, you can eat healthy for cheap.

there is no excuse for being fat other than some disability.


my dad had his slip disc removed, and even right out of surgery he could barely walk or lift 20 lbs but he still managed to swim everyday to stay in shape
 
Last edited:
I guess you can rely on evidence of just two people you know and ignore the overwhelming statistically valid evidence against the dangers of obesity if that works better for you

All i am saying is normal healthy people get sick to that was just an example.
 
bs, if you have time to talk on message boards, you have time to workout, if you have time to watch tv, you have time to workout, you dont need equipment to workout.

Also, you can eat healthy for cheap.

there is no excuse for being fat other than some disability.

I work 60 hours a week at a high stress job, when i get home i want to relax not go home and work more. Yes i go workout sometimes but its not as easy as some who work 40 hours a week and have workout equipment in their homes.
 
I work 60 hours a week at a high stress job, when i get home i want to relax not go home and work more. Yes i go workout sometimes but its not as easy as some who work 40 hours a week and have workout equipment in their homes.


and thats your excuse, you opted to go home and relax instead of staying fit. You can still do it, but your making an excuse not to. Its only an hour out of your day, hell even 60 hours a week with 8 hours sleep, you still got another 52 hours to do something, i'm sure you could work out if you really wanted to


edit: i'm not trying to be a ****, but it disturbs me that people make excuses for their shortcomings.