Hamilton Considering Cal, LSU, Virginia

The money was there...Did you see JP's email?

Yeah I saw the e-mail. It did nothing but pimp ISU's revenue sources. Did not say a single thing about expenditures. You can not make a conclusion from that e-mail that the money is there to buyout McDermott's contract...
 
Only thing JP didn't know about was Hamilton...JP knows what he is doing.[/QUOTE

i was a greg supporter even during the season, but with Hambone jetting, there is obviously something going on behind the scenes. This isn't a prima donna leaving the program like wes j, hambone was well respected by his teammates and always given glowing reccomendations by mac, so what gives. Maybe mac shouldn't spin the media so much and start tellin it like it is. or can he not do that cause his response will be after 2 years of playing for me, you will not only hate me, but you will have no respect for me either. Lots of players hate their coaches, but those coaches still get respect, mac doesn't.

My honest opinion(without hearing Ham's side)...Ham's a product of culture change with college basketball. Players want to play first, then win second, but if you don't win, they want to transfer. I understand wanting to win...there just isn't a lot of toughness there, when it comes to being pushed to get better.
 
Yeah I saw the e-mail. It did nothing but pimp ISU's revenue sources. Did not say a single thing about expenditures. You can not make a conclusion from that e-mail that the money is there to buyout McDermott's contract...

and if it was and nothing was done about it then jp is losing his senses. He is blindsided by his love for GMAC.
 
Hate to break it to you guys but you can put the whole Hamilton may be comming back thing to rest. Hamilton will not be back next year.
 
I would love it if somebody would compare the number of departures we've had in the last four years compared to teams with similar records in other major conferences. I realize we'll have more but how much more and how much talent have we consistently lost compared to other teams?
 
he gave the big 12 a shot now hamilton has to narrow it down, acc, pac 10, or sec. hope nothing but a miserable time at your next college. and the notion that i need to support him is nonsense, i supported him for 2 years at iowa state and while he has a good ceiling, he obviously isn't menally tough.
 
Oh shut up! Ever think maybe some people get sick of losing all the time?Ham a lottery pick? Yea.

yeah everyone gets sick of losing... only way to change that is stick around and play better... change the atmosphere, and culture... only real men take on that challenge... little babies run away from adversity. If he goes somewhere other then around his home, hes a dip wad... at least in this cyclones eyes.
 
he gave the big 12 a shot now hamilton has to narrow it down, acc, pac 10, or sec. hope nothing but a miserable time at your next college. and the notion that i need to support him is nonsense, i supported him for 2 years at iowa state and while he has a good ceiling, he obviously isn't menally tough.

Two years ago I would of echoed this. However, it is getting more and more obvious that something inside the men's basketball program at ISU is poison, and these players who may like Iowa State as a school, do not like the basketball program, and are finding it in their best interest to abandon ship and find greener pastures which better fit them. I put none of this blame on Hamilton, 100% on the coaching staff. Its been a terrible pattern...
 
I would love it if somebody would compare the number of departures we've had in the last four years compared to teams with similar records in other major conferences. I realize we'll have more but how much more and how much talent have we consistently lost compared to other teams?

There was a thread a week or two back that showed we lead the Big 12, and it's not even close.
 
Ten years ago a lot more people would have cared. Unfortunately this program has been driven into the ground and people are sick of hearing all the bad news. They were going to stink with Hamilton, now they will stink without him. No biggie. Let me know when the make the necessary changes to get this thing back on track.
 
KG,

Thanks for the info, if you ever decide to start an ISU recruiting website I would sign up right away. Better info here than on most pay sites!!!!
 
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So with JH transferring, does that offically put the last nail in the coffin of the '08 recruiting class?

Vanderbeken is the only one left in the 08 class

Eikmeier
Mann
Buckley
Pomlee
Hamilton

was the rest of the class.

In all honesty, it's not like it was a good recruiting class. A lot of busts in that group.
 
So with JH transferring, does that offically put the last nail in the coffin of the '08 recruiting class?


yep. you could argue the 08 class would mean the most to the program. it was was his second class, he's been in the big 12 for a year, fans expecting results in years 3 or 4, and he FLOPPED and he fell right to his face.
 
I'll agree with the 08' class being a bust...Also, about the time Mac changed the way he was recruiting.
 
Vanderbeken is the only one left in the 08 class

Eikmeier
Mann
Buckley
Pomlee
Hamilton

was the rest of the class.

In all honesty, it's not like it was a good recruiting class. A lot of busts in that group.

thats the point. every single one of those recruits is not worthy of a starting spot in the big 12 except for hamilton, and well we know now what is up with him.

He recruited like he was building a team full of bench players, or do I mean the MVC way. You can't argue that he tried to win the MVC way with that recruiting class.
 
KG,

Thanks for the info, if you ever decide to start an ISU recruiting website I would sign up right away. Better info here than on most pay sites!!!!

Same here! KG and cyismydog are the two best things CycloneFanatic has to offer. I only wish we had football equivalents. KG and cyismydog -- Thanks for all the time, energy, and efforts you put into CycloneFanatic!!! You should be getting paid.
 

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