Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

If the PCSA passes, the urgency for breakaway will be ramped up and the moves will be announced before the law can take effect. The power players will do their damnedest beat the posse out of town.
I believe it freezes things along current lines. IE, they could realign, but when the law goes into effect they would have to un-realign.
 
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I believe it freezes things along current lines. IE, they could realign, but when the law goes into effect they would have to un-realign.
How does that get enforced though? If 24 schools say they are taking their football (or entire athletics) programs out of the NCAA and organizing under a separate governing entity, what is the mechanism that forces them back into their current structure? This will obviously end up in the courts, but there is not a chance it is settled in a timely manner.
 
Trying to beat the clock on passage of PCSA is going to have extreme financial and political consequences for the involved conferences and schools. So much that it is more likely PCSA gets passed than the beat the clock sham actually gets pulled off.

And some of you here evidently pay too much attention to Fat Boy Fluguar and others like him.
You're seriously suggesting political retribution over college sports from senators and congresspeople that have to get re-elected in the states that this retribution would impact the most?
 
How does that get enforced though? If 24 schools say they are taking their football (or entire athletics) programs out of the NCAA and organizing under a separate governing entity, what is the mechanism that forces them back into their current structure? This will obviously end up in the courts, but there is not a chance it is settled in a timely manner.
This is correct. You can't apply a law that wasn't on the books at the time of the movement.
 
You're seriously suggesting political retribution over college sports from senators and congresspeople that have to get re-elected in the states that this retribution would impact the most?
Been through this before, It doesn't matter to senators from Missouri, Washington and other states as well. I get that the Purple Hawks want to see ISU relegated, but this train of thought doesn't work for your agenda.
 
Been through this before, It doesn't matter to senators from Missouri, Washington and other states as well. I get that the Purple Hawks want to see ISU relegated, but this train of thought doesn't work for your agenda.
You can set your watch to the name calling every time you even get slightly challenged on your logic.
 
How does that get enforced though? If 24 schools say they are taking their football (or entire athletics) programs out of the NCAA and organizing under a separate governing entity, what is the mechanism that forces them back into their current structure? This will obviously end up in the courts, but there is not a chance it is settled in a timely manner.
I can guarantee that if there is a 24 team super league, lawsuits to test the PCSA will be not be the top billed lawsuit, it will come from teams the Big Ten and SEC teams left out.
 
I can guarantee that if there is a 24 team super league, lawsuits to test the PCSA will be not be the top billed lawsuit, it will come from teams the Big Ten and SEC teams left out.
That's why the number is 36 and there is going to be one hell of a competition to get one of the last two tickets. Which two ACC schools are willing to take the least to get in under the buzzer?
 
Provided expansion is allowed on the re-written PCSA but pooling rights stays (say close to equal media rights), expansion obstacles for a conference/team decision would be academics, travel, bloat (not a conference but a league or federation), sports success, regional rivalries.

WVU to ACC seems no brainer provided ACC takes in their academics and ok with bloat. I say Yes.

Kansas is a wildcard. Linking with Duke and North Carolina probably appeals to them but loses regional rivalries and travel expenses. Football is blah. I say No.

I think the old Pac would come together again with pooling. BYU stays in Big 12 but lose Arizona, ASU, and Utah. Colorado is 50/50. Big 10 loses the 4 they poached.

Nebraska maybe would come back to the Big 12 but with no Oklahoma, I say they stay.

Missouri stays in SEC with no old power Oklahoma, Nebraska in the Big 12.

Maryland goes back to the ACC.

Old Big East might come back. Pitt, Syracuse, and BC don't fit in with the ACC. But they may stay for the ACC brands.

A couple things regarding pooling:
  1. It would be optional, not required. My understanding the current PCSA language says pooling is voluntary. So based on everything the Big 10/SEC have said, they have ZERO interest in pooling media rights.
  2. Even if the Big 10 & SEC would agree to pool rights to maximize revenue for the current 66ish P4 schools (but not maximize Big10/SEC monies). The pooling would not mean equal distribution school to school or conference to conference. The big brands would take a bigger share, after all that is who the TV folks are paying to broadcast. As I alluded to above, there is no reason for Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, UCLA, etc. to agree to pool TV monies. They would be giving up their advantage over Iowa State, K-State, Okie State, Colorado, Arizona State, Louisville, NCST, VT, Syracuse, etc.
If the PCSA is going to get passed it better get some momentum. Congress goes on a break from around August 10 to after Labor Day. And then goes on a break from early October until the elections. I would seriously doubt a lame duck Congress would pass the PCSA. Then the whole process starts over with the churn in Congress members for 2027.
 
A couple things regarding pooling:
  1. It would be optional, not required. My understanding the current PCSA language says pooling is voluntary. So based on everything the Big 10/SEC have said, they have ZERO interest in pooling media rights.
  2. Even if the Big 10 & SEC would agree to pool rights to maximize revenue for the current 66ish P4 schools (but not maximize Big10/SEC monies). The pooling would not mean equal distribution school to school or conference to conference. The big brands would take a bigger share, after all that is who the TV folks are paying to broadcast. As I alluded to above, there is no reason for Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, UCLA, etc. to agree to pool TV monies. They would be giving up their advantage over Iowa State, K-State, Okie State, Colorado, Arizona State, Louisville, NCST, VT, Syracuse, etc.
If the PCSA is going to get passed it better get some momentum. Congress goes on a break from around August 10 to after Labor Day. And then goes on a break from early October until the elections. I would seriously doubt a lame duck Congress would pass the PCSA. Then the whole process starts over with the churn in Congress members for 2027.
Why do you doubt this? I'd think that would be the perfect time for a lame duck member of Congress from SEC/ B1G states to throw caution to the wind in terms of p*ssing off constituents in their state.
 
If the PCSA is passed, there will be an accelerated breakaway of the top 20-30ish brands from the P4 to create an independent football/athletics league.

While I don't disagree with the idea of regional realignment with rights pooling, the question is who is it good for? It is great for teams in the ACC and Big 12. Its good for Purdue, Rutgers, South Carolina, and Miss St. It will be viewed as a loss by decision makers at the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, and USC. And that is why it will never have enough support to ever happen.

IMO that is a bad take. If pooling would be required it doesn't mean equal sharing between teams, even at a conference level.
  • The ACC has already gone down the path of saying its elite brands should get more. Miami's CFP money didn't go back to the ACC for equal distribution.
  • When the Big 10 was talking Private Equity investment, the payouts by school weren't equal. Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State were going to get like $190M. USC, Oregon were going to get around $145M. And the remaining 13 teams around $110M.
So the precedent is there that the big brands will get a bigger share regardless. They know that is why networks/streamers will pay big bucks. The schools that have the MOST to lose with pooling would be: Purdue, Iowa, Rutgers, South Carolina, Miss St, etc. Over time they would lose the financial advantage they currently have over Big 12 and ACC schools.
 
If the ACC took Louisville, they will take on anybody given Louisville was on extended accreditation probation by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on College after being accepted into the ACC

And the current version of PCSA has voluntary pooling and that is solely due to the timing of existing contracts and the stranglehold that ESPN and Fox have on the SEC and B10 with conference networks. When/if PCSA gets passed, a long term plan can be put in place for full FBS pooling that would clearly optimize revenues for all FBS members.

Once the voluntary language is in place and passed, then the ACC & Big 12 lose all leverage. There in no indication that the Big10 & SEC desire to not pool will go away.

Sure FBS pooling optimizes money for all 66 schools. It's pure SOCIALISM! But it doens't optimize money for the 25+ teams in the Big10/SEC who aren't OSU, Mich, PSU, UT, A&M, etc. So the majority of the Big10 & SEC school Presidents are never going to vote for pooling. Why would Purdue, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. give up their $30M/year advantage over Big12 & ACC teams? They wouldn't.
 
Why do you doubt this? I'd think that would be the perfect time for a lame duck member of Congress from SEC/ B1G states to throw caution to the wind in terms of p*ssing off constituents in their state.

Because there's more money in it for Cruz/Cantwell/etc. to kick the can into 2027. Then Cody Campbell, Private Equity, etc. have to load their lobbyist up with more money for another fight?

Plus I doubt "politicians" want to piss off their consituents. In most cases they are residents and fans of in-state schools. And why is PCSA good for SEC & Big 10 states? Politicians in FL, SC, TX, NC, etc. might like some of the guard rails that PCSA provides. But no way they want to stop their instate schools from joing the Big 10/SEC.
 
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