Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Yes, it would given the intentional and needless destruction of 20-25 schools being involuntarily eliminated.
Yeah for basketball it would be a lot less meaningful but for football it really wouldn’t.

Plus if this breakaway happened I doubt it would just be the P2. Again I think this is stupid and I think it shouldn’t happen
 
You're again making a needless and irrelevant drama queen point here.

The stakes and negative impact to a high number of schools make things different this time around to the point where Fed intervention is finally necessary to stop the greedy and self-serving pricks from getting their way.
You can’t still be holding on to this Fed intervention part. How much time has to pass before you realize this isn’t happening?
 
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They would not worry about that, because they understand that getting another league game will make up the difference. No way EIU would agree to playing 11 P-4 games a season. According the university they need that extra game or 7 total every year to keep the doors open. The reality is that by playing 2 sure wins and then ISU, more often than not they are going to start the year 3-0. Win 5 games in the conference and they are at 8 wins and a decent bowl game with that leagues bowl tie ends.
It’s the big 10 west on steroids, is that what you are saying.
 
You can’t still be holding on to this Fed intervention part. How much time has to pass before you realize this isn’t happening?
At a minimum, Fed intervention is required for an anti-trust exemption so that the NCAA can enforce its own eligibility/transfer rules and to codify House. Even Sankey and Petitti know that and support it although Petitti's recent quotes regarding the CSC provide evidence he wants House voided even though he signed off on it.

Obviously, those self-serving pricks don't want any other intervention and that is why the B10 and SEC are the sole exceptions from the college athletics space that don't support Cruz-Cantwell legislation. And again you refuse to acknowledge that if Sankey and Petitti played ball with the rest of FBS on everything else, the anti-trust exemption from the Feds along with House codification would be sufficient without other intervention.
 
At a minimum, Fed intervention is required for an anti-trust exemption so that the NCAA can enforce its own eligibility/transfer rules and to codify House. Even Sankey and Petitti know that and support it although Petitti's recent quotes regarding the CSC provide evidence he wants House voided even though he signed off on it.

Obviously, those self-serving pricks don't want any other intervention and that is why the B10 and SEC are the sole exceptions from the college athletics space that don't support Cruz-Cantwell legislation. And again you refuse to acknowledge that if Sankey and Petitti played ball with the rest of FBS on everything else, the anti-trust exemption from the Feds along with House codification would be sufficient without other intervention.
Uhhh, yeah if the P2 were in support or played ball as you said then everyone would be in agreement and plenty of things could be in motion. But they aren’t and never will be which again is why Fed intervention isn’t ever happening.

Problem now if that with the delays in the P2 plan more and more of the focus is going to be on getting out of or rid of the NCAA. While I’m not a fan of the NCAA in general I still don’t like that idea. But when you have people like JP basically daring them to and more and more consolidated power it’s getting more likely to happen. I just hope when it does the whole P4 joins on but my fear is that not all of the P4 (plus the big east) would get that invite as it would be chaos. That’s also where JP shooting his mouth off could royally cost ISU which I don’t want to see.

Cutting out the G5 is bound to happen and most likely needs to happen at the highest levels but I want the P4 to stay intact
 
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At a minimum, Fed intervention is required for an anti-trust exemption so that the NCAA can enforce its own eligibility/transfer rules and to codify House. Even Sankey and Petitti know that and support it although Petitti's recent quotes regarding the CSC provide evidence he wants House voided even though he signed off on it.

Obviously, those self-serving pricks don't want any other intervention and that is why the B10 and SEC are the sole exceptions from the college athletics space that don't support Cruz-Cantwell legislation. And again you refuse to acknowledge that if Sankey and Petitti played ball with the rest of FBS on everything else, the anti-trust exemption from the Feds along with House codification would be sufficient without other intervention.
And if the Big 12 was in the position of the B1G or SEC, they wouldn't support it either. And if Texas Tech was in the SEC, Cody Campbell would be perfectly happy and wouldn't be doing any of this. This whole thing is an exercise in hypocrisy. And you know it.
 
And if the Big 12 was in the position of the B1G or SEC, they wouldn't support it either. And if Texas Tech was in the SEC, Cody Campbell would be perfectly happy and wouldn't be doing any of this. This whole thing is an exercise in hypocrisy. And you know it.
You don’t know that. If the Big 10 and SEC wouldn’t have poached we wouldn’t have been in this mess. Sankey and the Big 10 are the root of evil in this situation.
 
You don’t know that. If the Big 10 and SEC wouldn’t have poached we wouldn’t have been in this mess. Sankey and the Big 10 are the root of evil in this situation.
I don't disagree. It's because they have more money, more bluebloods, more power, more leverage. I'm just saying if the situations were reversed and the Big 12 or ACC were in that position they'd be doing the exact same thing.
 
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You don’t know that. If the Big 10 and SEC wouldn’t have poached we wouldn’t have been in this mess. Sankey and the Big 10 are the root of evil in this situation.
Are you insinuating the B12 didn't poach any schools? This has been a game of who can survive and make more money from the get go.
 
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Yeah but Fed intervention is never happening and was never happening. You’re the only one who thought it had a prayer.

In making those comments JP is potentially writing ISU’s athletic eulogy to make a political point that’s meaningless. Guy is a great AD but that was a massive misstep
This feels like a large overstatement about how important his statement was. ISU’s athletic future will have 0% to do with his hot takes.
 
This feels like a large overstatement about how important his statement was. ISU’s athletic future will have 0% to do with his hot takes.
You're probably right. If I was in his position I don't think I'd be a pain the butt. The goal should be to get the invite into the P2. Pollard being the way he is makes it a lot more difficult.
 
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You're probably right. If I was in his position I don't think I'd be a pain the butt. The goal should be to get the invite into the P2. Pollard being the way he is makes it a lot more difficult.
No, the goal should be for the Big 12 and ACC to keep access to the highest level of college football.

The ship has sailed on any Big 12 school getting into the SEC or Big 10. Our survival is being allowed to compete at the highest level while realizing we’re going to get paid less and face the uphill challenge
 
This feels like a large overstatement about how important his statement was. ISU’s athletic future will have 0% to do with his hot takes.
I mean do you trust the P2 to not be petty ******* if they do break away and are looking to bring in most of the P4 or extending invites to the majority of schools? I certainly don’t and I guarantee you that someone in that room will bring up what he said and it will have some impact based on how his statement was shown to everyone at the league meetings.

Again that’s like multipule dominos that need to fall there but as a leader of an AD you need to be out there not doing any harm not scoring some random internet points when if gains you nothing but has the potential to cost you a lifeline
 
No, the goal should be for the Big 12 and ACC to keep access to the highest level of college football.

The ship has sailed on any Big 12 school getting into the SEC or Big 10. Our survival is being allowed to compete at the highest level while realizing we’re going to get paid less and face the uphill challenge
Agreed which is why if a breakaway occurred I would imagine the rest of the P4 would get the invite as well so that access is still there without also losing a ton of fans.

In that event a lot of rearranging could potentially happen and that’s where JP’s comments could (potentially) bite him. Then again this isn’t happening for years anyways
 
I mean do you trust the P2 to not be petty ******* if they do break away and are looking to bring in most of the P4 or extending invites to the majority of schools? I certainly don’t and I guarantee you that someone in that room will bring up what he said and it will have some impact based on how his statement was shown to everyone at the league meetings.

Again that’s like multipule dominos that need to fall there but as a leader of an AD you need to be out there not doing any harm not scoring some random internet points when if gains you nothing but has the potential to cost you a lifeline
Likely moot, but ISU has needed a savvy and shrewd political operator.

I agree with JP’s sentiment and believe in the strategy of risking everything now over a slow death, but what was gained from venting publicly and antagonizing?
 
Miami, Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame, UNC, maybe UVA, Stanford, Va Tech would go P2. It's a fact those schools are waiting to jump first chance they can. Nobody is going to give validation to a Georgia Tech/Baylor championship over a P2 championship.

Agree with you about us and many other schools focusing on basketball.
Can they get out of their current conference contract? Clemson and FSU was suing to get out of the contract and then dropped the suit, why if could get out of the contract? Could very well be, they wanted to leave, but they couldn't find a loop hole to get out.