And yet ratings were up across the board. Most on here are getting older and are naturally watching less. Just like all the people who swear up and down that they were gonna stop watching the NFL, the ratings for both sports continue to smash
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I wonder if gambling has an effect on these sports ratings.
I watch more NFL than I ever did, though.
For sure. NFL has a ton of advantages, it’s on Sundays, fantasy sports, redzone, sunday ticket, gambling for sure but college is a lot easier to gamble on
True, but eligibility/NIL/RevShare for football players is all governed by the NCAA/House and the SEC/B10 have voluntarily signed up to adhere by those terms. If the SEC/B10 voluntarily break away, they will breakaway for all sports. And they will face a multitude of Fed anti-trust, tax exemption, SBA, media contract and Fed/State political issues in doing so, especially if done before expiration of the existing CFP contract.
It won’t be until the current contracts are done which are all at the same time (if it happens). The breakaway would be for all sports but the P4 would follow as without the P2 involved in championships or in the same league it’s just FCS for everything:
Hope none of that happens
JP is well aware of the financial consequences and that ISU along with 20-25 other schools are facing the same devastating financial/competitive fate as Oregon St and Wazzu. As he stated last summer on a CyCast pod, Fed intervention is the only solution unless Sankey/ESPN and Petitti/Fox play ball with the rest of FBS.
His comments were politically driven and done primarily to display the hypocrisy of Sankey and Petitti relative to the CSC/House and their refusal to sign on to Cruz/Cantwell legislation (which as previously posted JP, Yormark and Phillips have done).
It's idiotic but devaluing
Hitching your wagon to government intervention is asinine.
Yeah but Fed intervention is never happening and was never happening. You’re the only one who thought it had a prayer.
In making those comments JP is potentially writing ISU’s athletic eulogy to make a political point that’s meaningless. Guy is a great AD but that was a massive misstep
Athletic eulogy is a bit much. Not playing meaningful games on Saturday will be devastating to CyTown. Dropping football and funneling all of our money to basketball and wrestling would be our best move.
Problem is without meaningful football there isn’t much money to funnel as the media deal will crater. Could look at a big east situation but then it’s also the matter of how such a move effects other sports such as basketball and wrestling.
I personally don’t want any of these things to happen that are being discussed
I completely disagree that it's a misstep. ISU's eulogy has already been written, and it involves being "relegated" within 10 years no matter who says what if no facts on the ground change. I think it was refreshing for someone to call out the "P2" puppets, and the leak that his comments or "proposal"—which he very much did not say was any official proposal that he plans to submit to the Big 12 and ACC—made their way into Big Ten meetings is all just posturing because those folks want to think they have the biggest you know whats in the room at all times. He explicitly said his opinion isn't law, and calling the big boys' bluff isn't going to happen. But that means he can say whatever he wants, which is logic that makes sense to me
It may have felt good and been absolutely correct at its core but that doesn't mean it wasn't a huge misstep.
ADs and Presidents greatly dislike drama and volunteering it isn't a great play.
I will will give JP one thing, he says what others won't. Right, wrong or otherwise. Huge misstep is a little much here.
ISU being included (or not) is a business decision. A guy who's going to be retired in 5 years running his mouth won't change ISU's fate.
I do think it was dumb for him to say anything, but that's not the difference at the end of the day.
Ya if Iowa state had a seat at the table Pollard wouldn't be trying to flip it over.
I guess I'm missing the drama. His response was basically, "Here's a counterfactual to contend with the Big Ten and SEC's flirting, but being too cowardly to follow through with, crippling the athletic departments of 30+ major universities." I'm so sick of hearing that not only is everyone outside the "P2" insignificant, but that "They better watch their mouths, lest...well, actually, they're going to get what's coming either way, but it'd just be messier if they make a peep, so we'd prefer they lie down and take it." Please. Pollard can say what he wants. Petitti can twist the truth or outright lie like the puppet he is. If the ship is going down, it's all fair game. Again, I mainly reject the suggestion that one man's comments, who made it clear were just the opinion of a single AD who wanted to offer a viewpoint that's rarely if ever been included in the broader discourse on the topic, have materially affected a single aspect of the issue
One man’s comments that were shared at the AD meetings for the P2. If he gets his wish and the P2 breakaway if more of the P4 gets added to the breakaway those comments will put ISU in a questionable position.
I don’t disagree with your message here and get it but it gains you nothing by saying it and has the potential to cost the university if the other AD’s become very petty which I is stupid but I wouldn’t rule it out
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. The $EC and B1G are as insufferable as Texas and OU were at the end. For the love of God, just leave already so the rest of us can move on. I don’t understand why they think fans of programs left behind are suddenly going to have an epiphany and become fans of their programs, but whatever FAFO. I’m done with them.
Williams & Blum noted that actually pulling the rug may be the only scenario worse for Iowa State and similar schools than what may happen if things keep trending the way they are. So it's unlikely Pollard was saying "Here's a scenario in which we win." I think he was mainly highlighting the hypocrisy of Big Ten and SEC leadership refusing to adhere to rules they helped create. The counterfactual was a scenario in which the "other" schools tire of playing Calvinball and throw up their hands, not a proposal he believes is a winning strategy
That sounds right. I almost watch no B1G or SEC now. If they split, then they don't even exist to me. Much like LIV golf. I've never seen it on TV at all, just don't care.
