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Ozempic, GLP-1 and other modern diabetes / weight loss medications

There was a Danish study different groups drank a liter of soda, a liter of diet soda, a liter of milk, or a liter of water per day for for six months.

Soda: Gained 22 lbs.
Diet Soda: Gained 3 lbs
Milk: No weight gan or loss
Water: Lost 4 lbs

I just found this interesting. I could not find the study, but it is discussed in a podcast at t he link below.


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785. Danish Weight Loss Study

Dr. Martin shares a study out of Denmark, where four groups of participants daily drank a liter of soda, diet soda, whole milk or water. Those who drank soda gained weight. Those who drank whole milk stayed the same weight, whereas those who drank water lost 4 pounds! Join Dr. Martin as he...
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h-man64 said:
There was a Danish study different groups drank a liter of soda, a liter of diet soda, a liter of milk, or a liter of water per day for for six months.

Soda: Gained 22 lbs.
Diet Soda: Gained 3 lbs
Milk: No weight gan or loss
Water: Lost 4 lbs

I just found this interesting. I could not find the study, but it is discussed in a podcast at t he link below.


martinclinic.com

785. Danish Weight Loss Study

Dr. Martin shares a study out of Denmark, where four groups of participants daily drank a liter of soda, diet soda, whole milk or water. Those who drank soda gained weight. Those who drank whole milk stayed the same weight, whereas those who drank water lost 4 pounds! Join Dr. Martin as he...
martinclinic.com martinclinic.com
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Hard to say without actually seeing the details but a liter of whole milk is like 600+ calories on it's own, so I'm a bit suspicious. Maybe drinking a liter of whole milk made them more full so they ate less?
 
3TrueFans said:
Hard to say without actually seeing the details but a liter of whole milk is like 600+ calories on it's own, so I'm a bit suspicious. Maybe drinking a liter of whole milk made them more full so they ate less?
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It’d also be “honest” in that the calories in the food matched the expectation from the taste, so I could believe that the body responds better.
 
Cyclonefan710 said:
I just look at the consumer. The day I find a healthily looking person routinely drinking Diet Coke will be the first time. People love to justify it by comparing to some other drink that is also terrible for you.
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But that's how it works - you displace one drink with another. So if one beverage is "less bad" on net, then making that substitution is smart. You're welcome to try and displace the entire beverage industry, but for normal people it's about making small steps in the right direction. Replace a beer/wine with a soda. Replace a soda with a diet soda. Replace a diet soda with water.

There's not much need for juice or milk as you can get everything from other food sources which will also contain fiber that nobody gets enough of. The accompanying fiber (and fat and protein) also helps slow down the absorption of the sugars in fruit and veggies, which reduces blood sugar spikes.
 
casey1973 said:
Stab in the dark here. A friend of mine started on Zepbound about a month or so ago. Low dose. A week or so later he started having some hearing issues, ear pressure, feeling muffled and some ringing. Waiting to get in to the doc. On reddit some have had some issues. Anybody here ever heard of that? Tia.
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This is a known side effect. Only being a month in it’s doubtful that it’s being caused by aggressive weight loss which many have theory’s on.

He should be able to message his PCP and get an answer right away, tell him to not wait for his appointment. The most likely guidance would be to stop taking the medication and see if the symptoms alleviate but he should hear that from his team. If he has mychart or a similar system he should get confirmation very quickly.
 
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My son suggested I try a GLP-3. Has anyone tried them. Pricing is similar to what I’m paying for Manjauro with my insurance around $100/ month
 
Some new studies / meta-analyses coming out recently indicate that the lean mass loss from GLP-1s is not different from the lean mass loss that occurs during lifestyle changes alone.

www.barbellmedicine.com

GLP-1 Muscle Loss: Ozempic, Wegovy & Mounjaro Evidence Review | Barbell Medicine

Pound for pound, GLP-1 medications do not cause more muscle loss than dieting alone. People on them lose more weight, which is the reason the absolute numbers look larger. In individuals with obesity, muscle function typically improves after treatment, not despite the weight loss but because of it.
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Cyforce said:
My son suggested I try a GLP-3. Has anyone tried them. Pricing is similar to what I’m paying for Manjauro with my insurance around $100/ month
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Retatrutide I assume? (A glp-1, gip, and glucagon receptor agonist).

Not officially fda approved yet but it's shown a ton of great results (better than tirzepatide) in trials and a lot of people are already using it off the gray market. Can probably get it even cheaper than that $100/month through those sources.

Operates a bit different than tirzepatide. People who have switched seem to see a bit less appetite reduction especially starting out, but sometimes still better results despite that. More sweets cravings. Have seen some people swear by it, others go back to tirzepatide.
 
besserheimerphat said:
Some new studies / meta-analyses coming out recently indicate that the lean mass loss from GLP-1s is not different from the lean mass loss that occurs during lifestyle changes alone.

www.barbellmedicine.com

GLP-1 Muscle Loss: Ozempic, Wegovy & Mounjaro Evidence Review | Barbell Medicine

Pound for pound, GLP-1 medications do not cause more muscle loss than dieting alone. People on them lose more weight, which is the reason the absolute numbers look larger. In individuals with obesity, muscle function typically improves after treatment, not despite the weight loss but because of it.
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Not surprising. The GLP-1s just make it easier for people to make that lifestyle change. The cravings and hunger are the biggest hurdles to keeping up with those lifestyle changes. So, if you can get a bit of help in keeping those down, go for it.
 
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I don't know if this is some version of the 'I'm fat!' thread but lately I've been cutting way back on sugary or floury type stuff and it makes a huge difference in my waistline, how well I sleep, etc.
 
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Dork Diggler said:
Ozempic.
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The problem with these Hollywood types and the ultra vain among us, is not so much the Ozempic etc. Its those taking it that dont need to lose a significant amount of weight, or really not needing to lose any at all in reality.

If you are significantly overweight, (needing to lose 50+ lbs.) and at risk of other health issues because of it, especially those that have tried many things and have failed, GLP-1s are a godsend.

If you are an ultra vain person, who already has borderline eating disorder, and already are thin or maybe could lose 10 1bs. Ozempic is not the answer, and not for you. And when you see these images of "ozempic face" etc. It is almost always someone that was already thin, and taking ozempic just basically gave them medically induced anorexia, and put their body in starvation mode, pulling fat from the face when no other easily available fat cells are available to burn.

As someone that has lost a significant amount of weight, I also am aware that I will have to be on these for probably the rest of my life to keep the weight off. As I had to go off them for a while for surgery and switching meds. And it was like a light switch the appetite came back, and so did the weight, FAST. I would still like to lose a bit more, but after a year or so, the weight loss slows significantly. Which is fine, and probably better for you in the long run.
 
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3TrueFans said:
Sometimes pictures are just bad, she looks skinnier but certainly not unrecognizable.

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Which one is more current?

I saw the video, the image above was from, which I think was from just the last couple weeks. She's stupid, did not need to lose any significant weight, so taking a GLP1 in her situation is stupid. Then again so is all the other **** these women inject into their lips, face, ass etc. I really dont understand how these women think gigantic lips etc looks good. So many have completely ruined their looks.
 
2speedy1 said:
Which one is more current?

I saw the video, the image above was from, which I think was from just the last couple weeks. She's stupid, did not need to lose any significant weight, so taking a GLP1 in her situation is stupid. Then again so is all the other **** these women inject into their lips, face, ass etc. I really dont understand how these women think gigantic lips etc looks good. So many have completely ruined their looks.
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The pictures are like a week apart, the one I posted is more recent from last week.
 
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