BREAKING: Matt Campbell, Penn State in final stages

[1SEIACLONE]

Let's say that Campbell falls on his face and is fired in 3 to 5 years. He is making $8 million a year, up from the $5 million he was making at ISU. So not only while he make at least $3 million a year more, at worst he gets another job equal to ISU. Franklin left Penn State and takes a job at Virginia Tech, Campbell would end up taking a lateral job much like he had at ISU.
To me it's well worth the chance for him to take the Penn State job, if he flops he will land at another job equal to what he had at ISU.

 

[2speedy1]

How are we still talking about Campbell, and how are we talking enough to fill up 5 pages here in the last day.

He gone, move on.

 

[clonedude]

For Matt to have the success at PSU that they will expect there, he will have to become a better head coach than he was here, that’s for sure.

Talent alone will not make up for how bad he was in the “details” and the “margins” at ISU. We lost several games we would have won with great coaching. ST too will have to be more of a priority obviously…. that also cost us games.

And Mouser will also have to improve quite a bit as OC too. Some of his play calling left a lot to be desired.

One other thing…. is Rocco for sure going to be their starter? There’s another guy who will need to really clean up his game too. Accuracy is an issue, as well as some decision making.

 

[AllInForISU]

How are we still talking about Campbell, and how are we talking enough to fill up 5 pages here in the last day.

He gone, move on.

Just a few days ago there was a thread about hypothetical Greg McDermott situations regarding, among others, Harrison Barnes, Jimmy Butler, and Doug McDermott.

This isn’t dying anytime soon.

 

[intrepid27]

you mean 2 coaches majors and chizek

Mack Brown (Off Cordinator under Donnie Duncan) and Pete Carroll (Grad Assistant 1978) were both on ISU coaching staff early in their careers.

 

[Marcelason78]

Mack Brown (Off Cordinator under Donnie Duncan) and Pete Carroll (Grad Assistant 1978) were both on ISU coaching staff early in their careers.

And, of course, there’s Jimmy Johnson.

 

[shadow]

The USC offer was a done deal if the assistants would have left with him, but they balked!

This would be new news. The most likely theory that I remember was that Brock Purdy gave him pause per the Bussin with the boys interview plus his wife was not sold on it either. And then Lincoln Riley stepped in after OU lost to Okie State.

 

[Tailg8er]

Yeah, that's not unique to Penn State. All of the big jobs are like that. High expectations are par for the course. Nobody takes one of those jobs without knowing that they need to deliver. We're not that far out from ISU fans telling Matt that he was on the hot seat. I'm sure his eyes are wide open when it comes to expectations, as are anyone's who accepts a head coach job at the power level

And it's not like his family will be out on their asses even if he completely fails, they're richer than rich. Could retire tomorrow & his kids are still set for life.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

For Matt to have the success at PSU that they will expect there, he will have to become a better head coach than he was here, that’s for sure.

Talent alone will not make up for how bad he was in the “details” and the “margins” at ISU. We lost several games we would have won with great coaching. ST too will have to be more of a priority obviously…. that also cost us games.

And Mouser will also have to improve quite a bit as OC too. Some of his play calling left a lot to be desired.

One other thing…. is Rocco for sure going to be their starter? There’s another guy who will need to really clean up his game too. Accuracy is an issue, as well as some decision making.

Campbell like many coaches do learn and improve, the mistakes he made at ISU, like no special teams coach will not be made at Penn State, because he learned that its too important part of the game not to have a full time coach in that position.
Will he make a mistake or two, sure everyone does, but with the talent he has available and over a decade of experience as a head coach, the mistakes will be fewer and not as large as they were here at ISU.

Mouser will do the same, he was shaky the first year or two, but we saw improvements last season, which will benefit him going forward.

Penn State has a very light schedule this year, with the talent they have from both ISU and Penn State they should win at least 10 games by just showing up. It would not surprise me to see them going 11-1 or 12-0 during the regular season. It's not like every team in the B10 is Ohio State and Oregon, lots of average to below average programs and PSU misses the other talented teams this season.

 

[PrimeCy]

How are we still talking about Campbell, and how are we talking enough to fill up 5 pages here in the last day.

He gone, move on.

We're between sports - gotta talk about something

 

[intrepid27]

And, of course, there’s Jimmy Johnson.

Yes forgot about him. I guess we are the "Cradle of National Championship" coaches.

 

[cyfanatic]

The off-season coach profile puff pieces aren't meant to be critical. It's PR parading as journalism. No one on the staff or team was going to say anything bad about the new coach, and even if they did, the author was never going to include those quotes.

I wasn't expecting it to be the Pentagon Papers...but thought it would be interesting to hear from those who are new to Coach Campbell. What is different for them? Anyone that wanted to hear what Rocco thought of Coach Campbell has 3 years of information in that regard. Nothing new at all. I get it that it is PR...but it wasn't written by a Penn State student!

 

[SolarGarlic]

One of the best parts of the Campbell tenure was watching us go toe-to-toe with the big dogs like OU and Texas, and occasionally beating them. He’ll beat some of the better B10 teams.

On the flip side he’d have games at ISU where they’d struggle to put away, and even lose to, teams they were far better than on paper. Those losses won’t fly at PSU, but he’ll also have significantly more talent, which can easily be a fail safe against the head scratchers.

Yeah, he has no room for error. That's the biggest difference. He ca get away with a loss at Colorado with Iowa State, but he absolutely cannot stumble at all at PSU.

 

[CoachHines3]

Yeah, he has no room for error. That's the biggest difference. He ca get away with a loss at Colorado with Iowa State, but he absolutely cannot stumble at all at PSU.

Imagine if Penn State loses to Marshall like we did Ohio LOL

 

[FinalFourCy]

Yeah, he has no room for error. That's the biggest difference. He ca get away with a loss at Colorado with Iowa State, but he absolutely cannot stumble at all at PSU.

That’s hyperbole imo

Depends how he does in big games. Particularly if CFP is expanded

With the increase in talent, he’ll have more margin for average coaching. I think he’ll do well

M

 

[SolarGarlic]

That’s hyperbole imo

Depends how he does in big games. Particularly if CFP is expanded

With the increase in talent, he’ll have more margin for average coaching. I think he’ll do well

M

I'm speaking more to the leash he's given by the fans. Is Campbell able to go 11-1 every year and get to at least the CFP semifinals? Because that is the expectation. Getting to the playoff in a 24-team setup is not even close to being enough.

 

[not-the-manager]

I'm speaking more to the leash he's given by the fans. Is Campbell able to go 11-1 every year and get to at least the CFP semifinals? Because that is the expectation. Getting to the playoff in a 24-team setup is not even close to being enough.

This is actually really interesting. An easy schedule your first season is simultaneously a reason you have to take the offer, and will also set expectations sky high. My gut says they'll be competing for third-to-fifth in the Big Ten most seasons. Will that be enough for fans? Last season it meant you were 8-1 or 7-2 in conference, but you wouldn't be competing for championships. Time will tell. I still think he took a higher profile job knowing he just needs to tread water a few years and can hop to the NFL

 

[FinalFourCy]

I'm speaking more to the leash he's given by the fans. Is Campbell able to go 11-1 every year and get to at least the CFP semifinals? Because that is the expectation. Getting to the playoff in a 24-team setup is not even close to being enough.

In your previous post you said he has no room for error. “He can get away with a loss at Colorado with Iowa State, but he absolutely cannot stumble at all at PSU”

That’s different than what you post here

Both matter, but CMC will be measured more by the highs, than the lows at PSU.

If CMC does better than Franklin in big games, wins enough to make some CFPs, he’ll have a long leash with fans even if he has losses to Michigan St or UCLA. That’s even more true with an expanded CFP, given that will allow brand names more mulligans

 

[Cloned4Life]

I wasn't expecting it to be the Pentagon Papers...but thought it would be interesting to hear from those who are new to Coach Campbell. What is different for them? Anyone that wanted to hear what Rocco thought of Coach Campbell has 3 years of information in that regard. Nothing new at all. I get it that it is PR...but it wasn't written by a Penn State student!

Rocco can provide 4 years of thought and information about Campbell, because Rocco - like many of us here - spent 4 full years at Iowa State and graduated.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

If Campbell can win as much as he did at ISU, with our talent level, he will be fine with the talent upgrade that Penn State will provide him. Being successful will come down to beating other top 10 teams, Franklin was 1-18 against other top 10 teams, and Campbell has done very well against those types of teams at ISU, there is no reason that he will not reach that or do better with the talent PSU has.