When we signed the five over the weekend it seemed TJ got got fit guys but not high dollar guys. Made me wonder if there’s so more to spend and maybe there’s some NIL on stand by if the right guy comes available. Just a hunch.
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I don’t think so - I think the roster is set. The only possible exception is if Milan doesn’t go pro and decides he really wants to come back, but that’s very unlikely.
See that makes no sense to me. If you can come up with money for Milan why can’t you for someone else? Milan is a great great player but that doesn’t mean someone else such as a dominant rim protector can’t help dramatically.
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The GM ballparked the price of the current market:
• Borderline starter? “An agent will start at $1.5 million.”
• A definite starter, but not all-conference? “$2.5 million.”
• A player projected to be all-conference? “$3 million and above.”
• A player projected to be an NBA Draft pick? “$3 million floor. Basically, it’s 30 percent of your budget. So if you’ve got $12 million, that guy is likely up to $4 million.”
…the NIL market for Division I players is up 65 percent from last year, with a 73 percent increase for players on power-conference teams.
The GM ballparked the price of the current market:
• Borderline starter? “An agent will start at $1.5 million.”
• A definite starter, but not all-conference? “$2.5 million.”
• A player projected to be all-conference? “$3 million and above.”
• A player projected to be an NBA Draft pick? “$3 million floor. Basically, it’s 30 percent of your budget. So if you’ve got $12 million, that guy is likely up to $4 million.”
…the NIL market for Division I players is up 65 percent from last year, with a 73 percent increase for players on power-conference teams.
I think your hunch is assuming there is money earmarked for Milan, or someone of equal value, plus money earmarked for retaining everyone else and filling out the roster.
Perhaps we knew the position we were in, so all resources we had brought us to the current state, with no special earmark for someone of equal value to arguably the best player currently in the portal.
For the record, I hope your assumption or hunch is spot on. I personally think it’s the latter of the two though.
I “liked” this comment not because I really “like” it, but because I believe it paints an accurate picture of the current landscape. I think we had a higher budget to work with than we did last year when we somehow managed to retain Jefferson, Milan and Lipsey, but market inflation has blown past last year.
Somebody explain to me like I'm a 5 yr old: Are the terms "NIL" and "Rev-share money" now being used interchangeably or are they still separate entities? I would guess we could be at our limit of rev share but could still come up with NIL, or am I mistaken? If the latter is true all doors remain open and the limiting factor would be remaining scholarships. Remember, I am five.
Revenue share and NiL are not interchangeable. Athletes can still earn NiL endorsements beyond school paid revenue share.
The wrinkle, supposedly, is that NiL deals must reflect fair market value for legitimate services. This little bit is what is supposed to shift NiL to it’s original intention and away from “pay for play” That is where auditors (Deloitte) are supposed to come into play. An auditor is apparently supposed to be able to determine fair market value of NiL deals. It’s all insane because really who’s to say what “fair market value” is? I guess Deloitte (where is jimlad when you really need it).
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Exactly my point. And I would guess we could "bank" NIL money but the rev share would be accounted for on a yearly basis, thus we could theoretically still finance an additional player even if our rev share is depleted--although I thought i read somewhere there are new rules governing NIL distributions.
Not trying to nit-pick, but some use the term for player payment as NIL when in fact they are rev share
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Theoretically, yes.
Who is “we” though in terms of banking NiL money (I did edit my original post, and maybe you were responding while I did)? NiL is not financed by the school so the school (I assume that’s what you mean by “we”) doesn’t have anything to bank. NiL deals would come from outside sources and those deals must (by rule) provide some kind of legitimate service. Supposedly.
Simultaneously edited my post for clarity
Additional edit: I would guess that some donors would give to the program with the idea it would be assigned to a particular player to conform to rules
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Yes, an Elite 8 is huge for any program regardless of how it happened, but that doesn’t mean they’re a healthy, consistent program. I wouldn’t trade an Elite 8 in one year if that meant that the program didn’t consistently get a 6-7 seed or better year over year.
I make it a point to just post what I’m thinking right or wrong it really doesn’t matter. Never understood the reason to tell others you think they’re wrong.
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If I had to guess, I'd say that our budget is more evenly spread this year than last. Our returning guys surely got a nice bump as all four would have had good value in the portal, and I think Singleton and Johnson probably took a decent amount to land too.
Hey Man…I’m not telling you you’re wrong. I even say I hope you are right. I responded to one of your posts in which you said someone else’s post “made no sense to you” and I offered a suggestion that may help explain it and give you understanding.
I didn’t say you were wrong. I was trying to help.
I don’t think they could come up with the money for Milan right now, unless there is a specific “Hyvee” type deal that will pay for Milan specifically
In theory, again, you are thinking about that correctly. It’s just easier for some institutions to meet revenue share requirements due to built in advantages of being in the conference they are in. Purdue, for example, can likely pay the entirety of their Rev Share from TV money alone. Our TV revenue doesn’t cover it, and **** rolls down hill…Simultaneously edited my post for clarity
Additional edit: I would guess that some donors would give to the program with the idea it would be assigned to a particular player to conform to rules
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KSU under Tang. Elite 8 in 22-23 trainwreck ever since. No one would trade our last 4 seasons for their elite 8. SD State’s trip to the finals, maybe.
