It sure would but our country is no longer equipped to switch back. In any urban area there is not room nor facilities for housing the animals.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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What were the "positives" there? It pretty well shows batteries degrade over time. Theres quite a few 51+ year old vehicles out there.
No there aren’t, not in regular use and you know it.
It’s extremely rare to have an everyday car from the 70s out there.
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They literally lump everything in as “20+”.
I had 1 source solar install it. Around a 28-29kW set up I believe. If you have Alliant it would pay better, this is with an electric cooperative and if it want for all the government kickbacks/rebates, it would not pay at all.
Very few, if any, 51+ year old vehicles that have always been daily drivers and still have the original engine. You're reaching further and further, dude.
Agree, once EV's become commonplace, families will just make their car with degraded range their in-town/short-range car. Most families have multiple vehicles.
I have also seen stories where degraded batteries will have a 2nd life. Such as being electrical storage in homes, etc.
There is SO MUCH R&D investment in battery chemistry around the world that current limitations will be an afterthought in 5-10 years.
That is a big reason I am in no hurry to buy an EV in the next 5 years. Today's EV tech will be outdated. But that also isn't the same as obsolete. And is the perspective of someone who keeps their vehicle for 15 years.
Yeah, Tesla's first Roadster had a range of about 245 miles. So 85% of that is still north of 200 miles. Hell, 80% is still around 200 miles. There is a lot of room for those vehicles in the marketplace. I could drive that to work and around town every day and just use my wife's ICE vehicle when we drive to Iowa if I don't want to mess with charging.
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My second car was a ‘77 Cutlass Supreme which I had about 25 years ago. It wax a pile of crap then. Inconceivable that it would still be on the road daily. Plus it got like 8 MPG.
I think you are ignoring physics in your predictions. It's just very tough to match the energy storage of fossil fuels. I've read articles and watched shows about solid state batteries etc. being right around the corner for 20+ years, I find such things interesting. Lighter, less expensive, less dangerous, less toxic materials, etc. They haven't materialized as promised.
Yeah, I looked at those numbers and thought they were horrendously bad, worse than I expected. Should have known though, I own a phone, after about 5 years the battery may as well be a brick.
Ive already posted plenty about older million mile cars, a lot on original running gear. The one tesla that made the list had motors and multiple batteries replaced.
EVs were around in the early automobile world too, it's not like they are a new idea/way at all.
15% degradation of a battery over 8-9 years is a lot different than a phone battery degrading enough to be 'a brick' - to reach that point you're talking 50+% degradation at least.
My last sedan went from 25+mpg to barely 19mpg (24% reduction) over the 16 years I had it. Thats the same curve. Almost every machine gets ****ier as it ages.
I'm not sure why you keep posting in this thread, what are you trying to accomplish?
I’m gonna ask you to leave this thread @motorcy90 or I’ll ask the mods to remove your posts once AGAIN.
Just leave.
Just leave.
Now you just sound like my grandpa. They didn't succeed 100 years ago so why would they now is a ridiculous point.
I’d wager there won’t be ANY ev cars on the road that are 30+ years old. I’m still driving a 65 Mustang with the original engine. One rebuild in it. Know a guy that has a late 60’s Shelby he uses as a daily driver and always has. Mechanical cars will always be easier to maintain over their lifespans.
That's true, but transport of electrons to point of service is a lot cheaper and easier. Its also possible to generate electrons for very little cost, and with very little environmental damage. I posted the Economist article about what the Chinese are doing on EVs, batteries, and solar earlier in this thread (I think it was this thread). Check it out, it is an eye-opening article.
And with cars, batteries being heavier than gas is offset (admittedly I don't know by what %) by no transmission etc. And it doesn't matter that much in a car application. Now for aircraft and other things where weight is crucial - yes the tech is probably a ways off.
