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PETERSON: Iowa State’s Bill Fennelly is not Aw-Shucks humble, he’s as real as they come

It is truly remarkable how many coaches have come and gone during his tenure here as well as him tied with Izzo as 2nd longest tenured coach at the same school. In this day of age I doubt we ever see a coach stay at the same school for as long as those 2 and Geno have. Kirk is trying his darndest at Iowa but Bill still has him beat out by 2 years.
 
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31 Seasons:

Tom Izzo has won 11 regular-season Big Ten Conference championships during his tenure as the head coach of the Michigan State Spartans. Tom Izzo has 8 Final Four appearances, two National Title game appearances and one National Championship.

Bill Fennelly shared one regular season conference title at ISU > 25 years ago and ISU WBB has never progressed past the Elite 8 in the NCAA tournament.
 
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OWLCITYCYFAN said:
31 Seasons:

Tom Izzo has won 11 regular-season Big Ten Conference championships during his tenure as the head coach of the Michigan State Spartans. Tom Izzo has 8 Final Four appearances, two National Title game appearances and one National Championship.

Bill Fennelly shared one regular season conference title at ISU > 25 years ago and ISU WBB has never progressed past the Elite 8 in the NCAA tournament.
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Who pooped in your Cheerios?
 
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OWLCITYCYFAN said:
31 Seasons:

Tom Izzo has won 11 regular-season Big Ten Conference championships during his tenure as the head coach of the Michigan State Spartans. Tom Izzo has 8 Final Four appearances, two National Title game appearances and one National Championship.

Bill Fennelly shared one regular season conference title at ISU > 25 years ago and ISU WBB has never progressed past the Elite 8 in the NCAA tournament.
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There you go again. Someone writes something nice a CBF and you try to tear him down. It is like clockwork. Really, what did he do to you. I know Daddy Joens is your buddy but come on give the constant tear down on CBF a break, it really gets old.

By the way your powerful TCU ladies beat those stellar Hayhawks at home by 2 pts. What did they do wrong to have such a close game against such a subpar team
 
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OWLCITYCYFAN said:
Not true on either accusation. The article notes parallels between two coaches - I added context to the comparison. No opinions, only facts. How can you get angry about a simple accounting of facts?
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You cannot help yourself from criticizing CBF. All you had to do was simply not say anything, but like always the hate for CBF comes out.

We all see it even if you do not.

He has coached the ladies to 3 straight wins after a horrible 5 game losing streak, one of those on the road to ranked Texas Tech. How about some appreciation with the turnaround, nope you have to once again point out that you believe a coach with over 800 career wins is just not good enough for you.

I get it, you are not a fan of CBF, I get it you are buddy's with the Joens Father, who also is not a fan of CBF, we get it, you do not like CBF.

I will promise to not bring up your hate for CBF if you just promise to leave CBF out of you messages. Deal?
 
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Well documented article by Peterson that illustrates how much respect the ISU Athletic Department has for Bill F. Having served under multiple Presidents and Athletic Directors and receiving a lifetime contract needs no other validation. Any comment about his coaching philosophy or program success is meaningless to the fact that he has built and sustained a competitive and winning program that consistently draws a leading home attendance number nationally.
 
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swiacy said:
Well documented article by Peterson that illustrates how much respect the ISU Athletic Department has for Bill F. Having served under multiple Presidents and Athletic Directors and receiving a lifetime contract needs no other validation. Any comment about his coaching philosophy or program success is meaningless to the fact that he has built and sustained a competitive and winning program that consistently draws a leading home attendance number nationally.
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Bingo! The bulk of the work over his tenure is impressive. There are few coaches out there that you can say have had that kind of sustained success over a long period of time or done more with less. No one is comparing his accomplishments to Geno, he has had unprecedented success and consistently more talent every year to be able to accomplish what he has done. When Bill took over ISU it was a doormat program that maybe 50-100 people would attend a game. Look at it now, one of the best attendances in the country year after year and one of the most watched teams on TV too. It's a national brand now that when people think of ISU Women's basketball they don't think of failure they think of success.

Yes the facts are we don't have much to show for conference titles in his tenure and 2 Elite 8 appearances have been the ceiling. But we've also made the NCAA tournament 23 of 29 seasons (1 year canceled by COVID) which outside of the blueblood programs in women's basketball there probably are not a lot of programs with that kind of sustained success. Also had 5 2nd place conference finishes to go with many other top 4 conference finishes and a lot of that came during Baylor's dominance. Baylor rolled off an impressive 11 game streak of regular conference season champs from 2011-2022 and lost no more than 3 conference games just 1 of those seasons. You have to be damn near perfect to compete with a dynasty like that to have a shot of taking that crown. Since 1996 just 1 team has won the conference with 4 losses and 8 with 3 losses. That is how tough it has been to win a Big 12 regular season title when you had to play Baylor twice a season most years and then sprinkle in some years that Oklahoma and Texas had some pretty damn good teams too.
 
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OWLCITYCYFAN said:
Not true on either accusation. The article notes parallels between two coaches - I added context to the comparison. No opinions, only facts. How can you get angry about a simple accounting of facts?
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You only highlighted the negative and you know it. The state of the programs when each coach took over weren't even in the same universe.

MSU before Izzo: 1124-860 .567
ISU before Fennelly: 141-247 .363

Izzo's predecessor: 340-220 .607
Bill's predecessor: 18-63 .222

MSU wins in the two seasons before Izzo: 20, 22
ISU wins in the two seasons before Bill: 8, 2

NCAA tournaments total before Izzo: 11 (including 1 champ, 2 FF, 4 E8, 6 S16)
NCAA tournaments total before Bill: Zero

Sure, Bill hasn't had as much success as Izzo, but what he built he built from scratch. Bill was handed a 30 year old Yugo that didn't run and had been rotting in a barn. Izzo was handed a three year old Buick with all the bells and whistles.

There wasn't even a suggestion in the story of comparing what Izzo had accomplished to what Bill had accomplished. It only states that they have been at their programs for the same amount of time - and nothing else.

Even Bill has said that he doesn't think there should be any comparison between what Mulkey accomplished and what he has. He is humble about it - stop tearing him down.

People are getting really sick of your axe grinding. If you want to start another thread about how much you don't like Bill as a coach nobody is stopping you, but quit shitting all over this thread.
 
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VeloClone said:
You only highlighted the negative and you know it. The state of the programs when each coach took over weren't even in the same universe.

MSU before Izzo: 1124-860 .567
ISU before Fennelly: 141-247 .363

Izzo's predecessor: 340-220 .607
Bill's predecessor: 18-63 .222

MSU wins in the two seasons before Izzo: 20, 22
ISU wins in the two seasons before Bill: 8, 2

NCAA tournaments total before Izzo: 11 (including 1 champ, 2 FF, 4 E8, 6 S16)
NCAA tournaments total before Bill: Zero

Sure, Bill hasn't had as much success as Izzo, but what he built he built from scratch. Bill was handed a 30 year old Yugo that didn't run and had been rotting in a barn. Izzo was handed a three year old Buick with all the bells and whistles.

There wasn't even a suggestion in the story of comparing what Izzo had accomplished to what Bill had accomplished. It only states that they have been at their programs for the same amount of time - and nothing else.

Even Bill has said that he doesn't think there should be any comparison between what Mulkey accomplished and what he has. He is humble about it - stop tearing him down.

People are getting really sick of your axe grinding. If you want to start another thread about how much you don't like Bill as a coach nobody is stopping you, but quit shitting all over this thread.
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The part that bothers me with the whole "he built from nothing" is the part that always omits he inherited a really good roster. They hadn't been winning much but his first squad(s) were talented. It included one player in the Cyclone Hall of Famer. He did a good job coaching them and building fan support but he was handed a very good roster.
 
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The part that bothers me with the whole "he built from nothing" is the part that always omits he inherited a really good roster. They hadn't been winning much but his first squad(s) were talented. It included one player in the Cyclone Hall of Famer. He did a good job coaching them and building fan support but he was handed a very good roster.
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They won two games the year before. I think that still qualifies as building it from nothing.
 
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The part that bothers me with the whole "he built from nothing" is the part that always omits he inherited a really good roster. They hadn't been winning much but his first squad(s) were talented. It included one player in the Cyclone Hall of Famer. He did a good job coaching them and building fan support but he was handed a very good roster.
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The question that could then be asked…would she be in the hall of fame without Fennelly and staff? Likely not. Success breeds recognition and fame. I give her credit for making me a women’s basketball fan. She was a student in a friends class (he was the TA) and he invited me to go to a game to support her. The two of us and about 150 other people enjoyed that game.
 
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There you go again. Someone writes something nice a CBF and you try to tear him down. It is like clockwork. Really, what did he do to you. I know Daddy Joens is your buddy but come on give the constant tear down on CBF a break, it really gets old.

By the way your powerful TCU ladies beat those stellar Hayhawks at home by 2 pts. What did they do wrong to have such a close game against such a subpar team
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He's is the Tom Davis of women's college basketball. Could be a good thing or a bad thing.
 
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He's is the Tom Davis of women's college basketball. Could be a good thing or a bad thing.
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It's a good thing. Bill has made ISU WBB into a well respected program that draws well and is well liked by its fan base.

We never made the top tier (flirted with it late 90s early 00s) but we are a solid program. Canning Bill and overpaying for a "name"coach wouldn't do anything other than making the program run further in the red IMO.

ISU WBB is a fun medium cost event for most fans. When Bill leaves I hope we hire a small program coach that has had good success somewhere between 35-50 yrs old. Cut the pay back use some of that money on NIL and hopefully have a successful relaunch of the program.

When that is who knows? I'm guessing after Audi graduates.
 
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