*** Official #2 IOWA STATE vs Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

This is probably the most confident I’ve felt going into Phog maybe ever. Kansas is bad folks. Our offense has felt sluggish the last couple of games and this feels like one of those nights where we are going to absolutely light it up from 3. Kansas will ultimately get forced into hero ball and that’s when we really put them in a body bag.
 
I expect a heavy dose of Jefferson. "Players-formations-plays," also try to get Kansas in foul trouble. I do worry about Bidunga's shot blocking making up for some defensive lapses... I think Momcilovic's first half Saturday has him feeling loose and confident. I expect him to play well even if shots aren't falling first half

This is probably the most confident I’ve felt going into Phog maybe ever. Kansas is bad folks. Our offense has felt sluggish the last couple of games and this feels like one of those nights where we are going to absolutely light it up from 3. Kansas will ultimately get forced into hero ball and that’s when we really put them in a body bag.

My theory is they're allowing themselves to get dragged into the mud to some degree against lesser competition. not an excuse, but when the ball gets moving on offense and it's not one guy taking the whole shot clock to find a look the offense still looks really good. Time will tell, maybe their metrics slipping is truly a sign that the offense was overperforming early in the season
 
I've decided 'slow starts' aren't nearly as bad as many think.

The opponents have played tough and come out swinging and for the most part ISU has withstood it and stayed within striking distance before settling in.

Like if ISU gets out to a 12-4 start tonight in the first 5 do people think that's game haha?
 
I've decided 'slow starts' aren't nearly as bad as many think.

The opponents have played tough and come out swinging and for the most part ISU has withstood it and stayed within striking distance before settling in.

Like if ISU gets out to a 12-4 start tonight in the first 5 do people think that's game haha?
I think slow starts are the norm for a lot of teams. You see it all the time in college basketball. Scores in the low teens to start the first 10 minutes of the game and you wonder if either team will reach 60 and the final score ends up in the 70s or 80s. I'm sure at some point in the season ISU will come out red hot. Hopefully tonight is one of those nights.
 
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A theory (not mine, someone else posted it earlier, but I agree with it!): the slow starts may be a consequence of Otz's whole "how you do anything is how you do everything" deal. I'm sure we make some adjustments for each opponent, but we don't do some categorically different approach for particular opponents or try to come out with some unexpected strategy and catch them off-guard or whatever. Like BYU, yes they're a bad matchup for us but we run the same D against them that we run against everyone else.

This consistency makes us easy to scout, so teams with good coaches and good players (we don't play a lot of teams like that in non-con) come out with a good plan for beating us and have some early success at that in the game. But our players are really good and our scheme is really good and playing with the level of energy and execution it takes to beat us all game long is really hard, they wear out, and our greater talent wins out in the end.

Makes sense to me!

There haven't been many years in my fandom where I think we have a decisively more talented roster than KU but this year is one of them for sure. They have the single most talented player for sure but he's a teenager who seemingly can't/won't play a full game and looks like he'd struggle to squat 185, our grown men plus man-child Toure on the perimeter will have something for him!
I see the slow starts followed by breaking out in the middle 8 as:

1. Like you said teams come out vs #2 with motivation and a game plan. Our players are smart and experienced and make adjustments after they figure out the other team's game plan, tendencies and weaknesses through the early possessions. TJ basically said its the players problem solving more than his coaching.

2. They can take advantage of the open man our blitz defense gives up early, but as they get tired it's obviously harder to make the right read and pass. Every single possession feels out of rhythm because they're constantly being forced to make quick decisions, people most comfortable with the ball are always being denied the pass, and when they do get the pass they're being shoved and body checked out of their normal spots. It's the combo of being forced to do everything differently than their used compounded with getting too exhausted to adapt.

Edit: 1 more is the Milan factor. He's gotta see one go through, then once he does he hits everything. I'd like to see him set up with an easy 2 sometime early in the game to get a rhythm going
 
I think slow starts are the norm for a lot of teams. You see it all the time in college basketball. Scores in the low teens to start the first 10 minutes of the game and you wonder if either team will reach 60 and the final score ends up in the 70s or 80s. I'm sure at some point in the season ISU will come out red hot. Hopefully tonight is one of those nights.

Just like 15-20 point leads can and do go away quickly very often, I don't think people pay enough attention to a lot of games to see that ISU isn't alone in 'slow starts'.
 
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9pm start for me in Eastern time here. I'm debating if I want to stay up to watch and potentially be pissed off and unable to sleep at midnight.
*befuddled face*

You have to stay up to get to 9pm?!?
Pardon my old man "Get off my lawn" moment, but why TF must this game be on so late? FFS.

8pm is great because I can watch after I get the preschooler to bed.