PSU Campbell Presser

Lost a lot of respect for Rocco and Campbell when I read that. Honestly, given what Rocco said, coupled with Jeremiah Cooper’s, or his family’s comments, it seems they were more than happy to take our money, but didn’t want anything to do with the people (AD or the fans)
They ain’t winning a NC with Rocco Becht at QB. That’s the one sure thing I will guarantee.
 
If you hurt the football team, that 2-3 MM can vanish in a flash though. Football is king period.
Where is it written that if football does not do well moving forward the 2-3 mil will vanish? Yes football is king of college sports; however from what I understand the 20.5 mil is not contingent on fielding a winning football team. The funding for the 20.5 mil to the athletic department, is coming from within the athletic department. The future ISU athletics, long term, will be decided by the Board of Regents and potentially tax payer funds.
 
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I don’t have a problem with Rocco referencing the resources at Ped St, but saying Campbell didn’t have the people is uncalled for. Lost a lot of respect for him there.
That's some solid reasoning.

Don't have the NIL resources at ISU to get the talent to win NC. So Matt is going to build around those same guys that those poor resources bought at ISU.

Life is way easier when you just understand that it's all a grift. And that while there might be some appearances of adversarial relationships between players, networks, coaches, schools, conferences etc. that's largely performative. In the end it's like pro wrestling. Behind the scenes they are all laughing their way to the bank and despise everything about the fans except our money.
 
Another narrative falling apart right now.

It's impossible for ISU to compete at a high level. Also, all these players from ISU are going to compete for a national championship at Penn State.

I get that these guys were probably underpaid and that it's easier at Penn State with all of the money. But I just don't buy the argument that Matt Campbell is the only guy that can get kids to Ames, IA and put a competitive product on the field.

Same exact thing is happening in basketball. Kentucky is reportedly spending 4x the amount of money we are on our basketball roster and they're not even ranked. meanwhile, little ole' Iowa State is #3 in the country with current +200 odds to make the final four.
 
Yeah I just don’t see that happening after witnessing the consistent head scratching slow starts, random losses, and melt downs in clutch moments in big games over the years.

Don’t get me wrong I think Matt is a good coach and great sales guy or “culture” builder. But I don’t think he’s going to reach that caliper of winning regardless of resources.

Especially considering he lost Heacock now, who has saved his butt too many times to count.

Who knows what will happen, but a national championship seems like quite a stretch given that Campbell has never won a conference championship anywhere.

They are certainly setting some high expectations for their fan base, a stark contrast from their time at ISU when Matt publicly denied that even a conference championship was the goal. Just be the best version of ourselves.
 
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I don’t have a problem with Rocco referencing the resources at Ped St, but saying Campbell didn’t have the people is uncalled for. Lost a lot of respect for him there.
IDK, its well documented that Brock got a LOT better with his personal summer camp expert before the draft wrt throwing the ball etc.

Now, blame that on lack of resources? Or blame it on CMC not even recognizing it was a need in the first place? Honestly, I'd bet the latter if I had to bet.
 
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Another narrative falling apart right now.

It's impossible for ISU to compete at a high level. Also, all these players from ISU are going to compete for a national championship at Penn State.

I get that these guys were probably underpaid and that it's easier at Penn State with all of the money. But I just don't buy the argument that Matt Campbell is the only guy that can get kids to Ames, IA and put a competitive product on the field.

Same exact thing is happening in basketball. Kentucky is reportedly spending 4x the amount of money we are on our basketball roster and they're not even ranked. meanwhile, little ole' Iowa State is #3 in the country with current +200 odds to make the final four.
Who is arguing that Matt Campbell is the only guy that can get good players in Ames? It has factually never been easier to win at Iowa State than literally right now, in this version of the Big 12 conference, even with the "NIL" situation. It should not shock fans if we win a lot of games next year and beyond.
 



So for three years at ISU things were going great and Rocco thought there was a chance to win a NC, right? Then woke up one morning and said "oh no"?

Feel sort of sorry for the kid he has learned to become a BS artist at such a young age. Need to probably stop drinking so much of Matt's bath water.
 
Who is arguing that Matt Campbell is the only guy that can get good players in Ames? It has factually never been easier to win at Iowa State than literally right now, in this version of the Big 12 conference, even with the "NIL" situation. It should not shock fans if we win a lot of games next year and beyond.
I'm talking about Matt's need to incessantly remind everyone how hard it is to win at Iowa State. There are a few posters on here (although a small minority) that seem to believe it. I don't think you and I are in disagreement. Just saying the same thing different ways.
 
I'm talking about Matt's need to incessantly remind everyone how hard it is to win at Iowa State. There are a few posters on here (although a small minority) that seem to believe it. I don't think you and I are in disagreement. Just saying the same thing different ways.
For all of Campbell's talk of culture, I might venture it was necessary for a culture change in Ames. The fact our basketball coach is having his players take UFC lessons, whilst the football coach is preaching "best version of ourselves" and "how difficult it is to win in Ames" is all the insight into the subject I need to understand things were a little upside down. Here's to Coach Rogers leading with a more punch 'em in the mouth attitude.
 
I'm talking about Matt's need to incessantly remind everyone how hard it is to win at Iowa State. There are a few posters on here (although a small minority) that seem to believe it. I don't think you and I are in disagreement. Just saying the same thing different ways.
Ok that is fair, apologies for being presumptive here.

I absolutely hate the message of how hard it is to win at Iowa State. Hate it. From Matt, from anyone. And IMHO, I believe our Athletic Director is the single worst offender in this. That 15 minute side table interview on Twitter the weekend of December 5th - basically was just JP whining about "our reality", "do more with less", blah blah blah.
 
For all of Campbell's talk of culture, I might venture it was necessary for a culture change in Ames. The fact our basketball coach is having his players take UFC lessons, whilst the football coach is preaching "best version of ourselves" and "how difficult it is to win in Ames" is all the insight into the subject I need to understand things were a little upside down. Here's to Coach Rogers leading with a more punch 'em in the mouth attitude.
If we have any amount of sucess next year, I pray to god that Rogers and Pollard really lean into it.

"It's so hard to win here" is something you say when it's all about "me". Most athletes will lean into a challenge by nature. If they don't, they're probably not playing at college level. But there is no reason to make it sound harder than it's actually going to be.

I contrast this with TJ's approach. He's not sunshine and rainbows and talks a lot about the challenges and adversity that kids are going to face. But I'm sure he's speaking generally and about real life. It's not making the kids think it's going to be any different at ISU than it is anywhere else.
 
Does anyone have the number of Iowa State players (and recruits) that have committed to Penn State?

vs.

How many players/recruits from Washington State that have flipped to us?
 
Ok that is fair, apologies for being presumptive here.

I absolutely hate the message of how hard it is to win at Iowa State. Hate it. From Matt, from anyone. And IMHO, I believe our Athletic Director is the single worst offender in this. That 15 minute side table interview on Twitter the weekend of December 5th - basically was just JP whining about "our reality", "do more with less", blah blah blah.
Excellent post! Couldn’t agree more.
 
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The funding for the 20.5 mil to the athletic department, is coming from within the athletic department. The future ISU athletics, long term, will be decided by the Board of Regents and potentially tax payer funds.
The revenue sharing will be even harder for ISU tofund without a successful football program.
 
If we have any amount of sucess next year, I pray to god that Rogers and Pollard really lean into it.

"It's so hard to win here" is something you say when it's all about "me". Most athletes will lean into a challenge by nature. If they don't, they're probably not playing at college level. But there is no reason to make it sound harder than it's actually going to be.

I contrast this with TJ's approach. He's not sunshine and rainbows and talks a lot about the challenges and adversity that kids are going to face. But I'm sure he's speaking generally and about real life. It's not making the kids think it's going to be any different at ISU than it is anywhere else.
I don't think there's that much difference. Both coaches built programs on recruiting to their system, player development, player retention, and maximizing effort and execution. That it's harder to win here is simple reality. Anyone can see our locker rooms aren't full of 5-star recruits and we can't offer the big bucks in the transfer portal.