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give me that before a new press box at JTS
This definitely needs to happen though. It's wild that ISU has AMAZING modern facilities and upgrades all over campus now. Our facilities can compete with just about anybody outside of those perennial blueblood blank check schools like Texas/Oregon/Bama/LSU/etc.

Yet the press box on the beautiful Jack Trice Stadium is probably still on par with MAC or Sun Belt schools.
 
Texas was brand new that yr but they did it right. Bodega like areas with some type of quick scan thing if I remember right. The beers where we pregamed were the same cost as in the arena. Multiple food choices from name brand restaurants. It was amazing
That's how concessions were done at Milwaukee during the NCAA tournament as well. Very efficient with many different options around the arena.
 
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This definitely needs to happen though. It's wild that ISU has AMAZING modern facilities and upgrades all over campus now. Our facilities can compete with just about anybody outside of those perennial blueblood blank check schools like Texas/Oregon/Bama/LSU/etc.

Yet the press box on the beautiful Jack Trice Stadium is probably still on par with MAC or Sun Belt schools.
On the list of the top 100 most important things facing the Athletics Department right now, this probably comes in at #322

Just doesn't move the needle on anything that truly matters
 
On the list of the top 100 most important things facing the Athletics Department right now, this probably comes in at #322

Just doesn't move the needle on anything that truly matters
It does if you can create a structure that can not only serve as a "press box" but also a revenue generator, e.g., more suites, conference/event/meeting space, other premium office, training, tutoring, etc. space for other sports, etc. So many schools have these massive structures that not only serve as a pressbox on game, but are there for many other logical and lucrative reasons. And oh yeah, a big ass structure would look a hell of a lot better than our dinky little G5 press box. Having an intimidating home venue is important to the football program. It's the same reason it was a mistake putting in a new scoreboard on the south side and not making it the full width to match the video board on the north side. Those stupid dorky ass cheesy as hell looking I-State and Big 12 logo "coverings" look so damn bad and embarrassing. Having 2 giant video boards facing each other would have been a very unique and intimidating addition to Trice that not many stadiums have. Such a missed opportunity, and yes it was absolute worth the money to do it.
 
It does if you can create a structure that can not only serve as a "press box" but also a revenue generator, e.g., more suites, conference/event/meeting space, other premium office, training, tutoring, etc. space for other sports, etc. So many schools have these massive structures that not only serve as a pressbox on game, but are there for many other logical and lucrative reasons. And oh yeah, a big ass structure would look a hell of a lot better than our dinky little G5 press box. Having an intimidating home venue is important to the football program. It's the same reason it was a mistake putting in a new scoreboard on the south side and not making it the full width to match the video board on the north side. Those stupid dorky ass cheesy as hell looking I-State and Big 12 logo "coverings" look so damn bad and embarrassing. Having 2 giant video boards facing each other would have been a very unique and intimidating addition to Trice that not many stadiums have. Such a missed opportunity, and yes it was absolute worth the money to do it.
Pretty sure market studies show there is no appetite for additional premium seating / suites in Jack Trice at this time, and no way would those other use cases you mention displace anything already available in Stark or cannibalize opportunties soon to be available in CYtown

Some of you seem to have size inferiority complexes to get over
 
On the list of the top 100 most important things facing the Athletics Department right now, this probably comes in at #322

Just doesn't move the needle on anything that truly matters
I agree it's not the top priority, I agree there are more pressing issues, but to act like that isn't needed, isn't way overdue, or shouldn't even be on the AD list of to-dos..

I know you're just pulling hyperbolic numbers to make a point, but there aren't 100 things on the big picture AD list. Maybe 25 things on there. Press box is probably more like 15-20th, but it sure should be on there. I'd say CyTown & NIL funding/allocation are the top 2 or 3 fwiw.

Pretty sure market studies show there is no appetite for additional premium seating / suites in Jack Trice at this time
I'd be interested in the source/link on that.
 
Pretty sure market studies show there is no appetite for additional premium seating / suites in Jack Trice at this time, and no way would those other use cases you mention displace anything already available in Stark or cannibalize opportunties soon to be available in CYtown

Some of you seem to have size inferiority complexes to get over
Press boxes are built for members of print media. Print media is dead. And while enhanced suite seating would be welcome, there doesn't seem to be much of a need there. ISU athletics is no longer in a "build it and they will come" mode. Thank God we got as much work done for the program when we did, before the missile crisis.
 
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It does if you can create a structure that can not only serve as a "press box" but also a revenue generator, e.g., more suites, conference/event/meeting space, other premium office, training, tutoring, etc. space for other sports, etc. So many schools have these massive structures that not only serve as a pressbox on game, but are there for many other logical and lucrative reasons. And oh yeah, a big ass structure would look a hell of a lot better than our dinky little G5 press box. Having an intimidating home venue is important to the football program. It's the same reason it was a mistake putting in a new scoreboard on the south side and not making it the full width to match the video board on the north side. Those stupid dorky ass cheesy as hell looking I-State and Big 12 logo "coverings" look so damn bad and embarrassing. Having 2 giant video boards facing each other would have been a very unique and intimidating addition to Trice that not many stadiums have. Such a missed opportunity, and yes it was absolute worth the money to do it.
my counter would be we already have everything bolded in JTS

we have none of the bolded in Hilton and that arena, while smaller, hosts way more events
 
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Yeah, concessions are pretty much the same as they were when I was in school in the 90s. And guessing that they were the same then as they were when the facilities opened.
I was there for the first season and you guessed right.
 
It does if you can create a structure that can not only serve as a "press box" but also a revenue generator, e.g., more suites, conference/event/meeting space, other premium office, training, tutoring, etc. space for other sports, etc. So many schools have these massive structures that not only serve as a pressbox on game, but are there for many other logical and lucrative reasons. And oh yeah, a big ass structure would look a hell of a lot better than our dinky little G5 press box. Having an intimidating home venue is important to the football program. It's the same reason it was a mistake putting in a new scoreboard on the south side and not making it the full width to match the video board on the north side. Those stupid dorky ass cheesy as hell looking I-State and Big 12 logo "coverings" look so damn bad and embarrassing. Having 2 giant video boards facing each other would have been a very unique and intimidating addition to Trice that not many stadiums have. Such a missed opportunity, and yes it was absolute worth the money to do it.
Totally agree with you that we should have modernized the press box area and put in more private seating years ago. If nothing more to show that ISU is serous about football and JTS is a power 4 stadium. But I fear that with the money crunch we have approaching, it will never get done and when you are in survival mode, perks like an expensive rebuild of the press box and seating upgrades is never going to occur.
 
Press boxes are built for members of print media. Print media is dead. And while enhanced suite seating would be welcome, there doesn't seem to be much of a need there. ISU athletics is no longer in a "build it and they will come" mode. Thank God we got as much work done for the program when we did, before the missile crisis.
I have never understood this line of thinking of its only for the press and screw them. I could care less about the working condition of the press core. The whole point of putting in a more extensive press box area would be the inclusion of private boxes and more areas like the Sukup setup in the end zone. In today's stadium game, that is where the money is, not in selling season tickets to the average guy, but to the corporations and fans that can afford to spend $3 grand for one seat in a private area to bring in customers and show off a little. It works at EIU and many stadiums all around the nation. It's foolish to think it only for the press, you have to think about how the stadium not only looks, but enlarging the money streams coming into the athletic department.

It's all of not now, as we do not have the money even if we wanted to do it.
 
We already have suites and other premium areas in multiple locations around the stadium; there simply is not enough demand to build more that justifies the expense for that kind of renovation

Yeah, pretty sure there was still suite space available last year. Realistically though when you actually look at our set up and what it would take to put in a larger box (likely means reconfiguring the concourse and concessions\restrooms as well), its questionable whether you could ever make it make sense even if the new suites were filled. Honestly the only way it probably happens is if there's ever a need to demolish and re-do the entire west side when the upper bowl is at the end of its lifespan. But that's probably decades off at best given the astronomical cost that starts being and the current direction of college sports.

If there's an in-demand area its probably for more space like the Jack Trice Club, which I believe has a waiting list.
 
my counter would be we already have everything bolded in JTS

we have none of the bolded in Hilton and that arena, while smaller, hosts way more events
Yes, if anything needs to be funded it is the hilton renovations. That is supposed to add things like suites, offices, and expand the concessions.

Is there even a demand for more luxury seating and suites at JTS? It's easy to say we need to add suites as a money generator, but it also feels like creating a supply for something that isn't in demand.
 
We already have suites and other premium areas in multiple locations around the stadium; there simply is not enough demand to build more that justifies the expense for that kind of renovation
People were saying the same thing when they were talking about enclosing the South end zone. Wait until the crowd size shows we need it and then do it. Funny how that worked out, not only does the stadium look, sound and feel better, it bought in another money steam.

You build now and the demand will be there.
 
I have never understood this line of thinking of its only for the press and screw them. I could care less about the working condition of the press core. The whole point of putting in a more extensive press box area would be the inclusion of private boxes and more areas like the Sukup setup in the end zone. In today's stadium game, that is where the money is, not in selling season tickets to the average guy, but to the corporations and fans that can afford to spend $3 grand for one seat in a private area to bring in customers and show off a little. It works at EIU and many stadiums all around the nation. It's foolish to think it only for the press, you have to think about how the stadium not only looks, but enlarging the money streams coming into the athletic department.

It's all of not now, as we do not have the money even if we wanted to do it.
I have never understood this line of thinking. Our AD is literally an accountant. Do you think if we had people lined up to fill another 10-20 luxury suites he wouldn't be adding those? ISU is not ripe with money, we can't just spend 10s to 100s of millions of dollars expanding luxury boxes no on wants.
 
People were saying the same thing when they were talking about enclosing the South end zone. Wait until the crowd size shows we need it and then do it. Funny how that worked out, not only does the stadium look, sound and feel better, it bought in another money steam.

You build now and the demand will be there.

Except back then the demand was there for more premium space like the Sukup, and we were regularly filling the stadium at its prior capacity. The SEZ probably doesn't get built at all if there wasn't the existing demand for more premium space and it was only more cheap seats.

Such demand doesn't seem to exist for more suites.

You also have to account for the costs. Replacing the box is an extreme cost. What's the payback period look like on the additional suite revenue, even if you can somehow sell out a larger number of what already isn't selling out consistently?

Not to mention the SEZ was built during an era for college AD revenue that is likely to be on pause for a good while. Schools had windfalls from tv money increases, and now are having to divert money they don't have into paying players amounts that keep increasing year over year.
 
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The idea that an AD would spend something on the order of $40 million to replace a press box because some fans feel it doesn't look big time enough, is preposterous on its face and I don't know why we keep talking about it. When athletics listed their priorities for improvements in a document 10 years or so ago there was a lot of stuff on it. Press box wasn't.
 
I have never understood this line of thinking. Our AD is literally an accountant. Do you think if we had people lined up to fill another 10-20 luxury suites he wouldn't be adding those? ISU is not ripe with money, we can't just spend 10s to 100s of millions of dollars expanding luxury boxes no on wants.
Pollard has never been bold in pushing the program as forward I and others would have hoped he would be. That may be because of the accounting background and he wanted this Cy Town project which I am sure he hopes will open up other money streams.

It's all water under the bridge now, we do not have the money for it and never have it, most likely, so we are stuck with what we have.
 

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