Does the Big 12 want Notre Dame?

I was gonna go nuts if ND got in and Miami was out and people said "The ACC got left out". ND basically already plays in the ACC while avoiding the CCG.

This year:
Miami
NC St
Boston College
Pitt
Syracuse
Stanford

Last year:
Louisville
Stanford
GTech
FSU
UVA

2023:
NC State
Duke
Louisville
Pitt
Clemson
Stanford

That's a whole lotta ACC teams for "not an ACC team".
I'm too lazy to verify this with facts, but I believe ND Football is required to schedule x number of ACC teams in order to be able to park all of their other sports in the ACC.
 
I'm too lazy to verify this with facts, but I believe ND Football is required to schedule x number of ACC teams in order to be able to park all of their other sports in the ACC.
My quick Google suggests they have an agreement to play five ACC teams per year in football.
 
I didn't even realize Alabama got in lol. What a joke. At any rate, there is no doubt in my mind that the ACC played their part in wedging Miami in there above Notre Dame and would have acted differently if ND was a full member. Either way, I'd take ND to the Big 12 in a heartbeat.
Add me to the club membership. I literally don't know the criteria. Obviously B4 conference champions (Except Duke this year) are semi-automatic. The rest is, "let's fill it up with B1G and SEC teams, that way no other conference can ever realistically win it."
 
Alabama is in because "the committee" doesn't hold a loss in a conference championship against you, unless you're in the Big 12.
Except that’s not true. BYU was never in and that’s where they stayed after the championship game.

Don’t agree with it but that wasn’t a double standard
 
They have a huge national fanbase. They are the most popular college sports program in Chicago and NYC (I think. Not doing the research.).
Sure, but they are like 9th in viewership. You expect them to have like the most viewership by like 2x with how much deference they get.
 
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Add me to the club membership. I literally don't know the criteria. Obviously B4 conference champions (Except Duke this year) are semi-automatic. The rest is, "let's fill it up with B1G and SEC teams, that way no other conference can ever realistically win it."
Yeah, as soon as I saw Miami made it in, and also saw James Madison and Tulane in there, I was assuming that Alabama was out (as they should be with 3 losses).
 
And in all fairness they didn’t let a win in the ACC CCG affect their assessment of FSU a couple years ago.
You mean in the 4 team playoff? Yep that was always going to have issues in the P5 era, but it’s a 12 team now. That wasn’t kinda a BS decision but considering how FSU has been a dumpster fire since that game probably the right one even if it wasn’t fair when OSU didn’t get punished that way
 
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Who had James Madison in the Play-offs before ISU (or Iowa) on their Bingo Card?
Honestly, you should have.

A one berth league with a non-round-robin schedule is eventually going to get burned. I’m just glad it was the ACC and not the Big 12.
 
If you want Nebraska yet everyone would be very happy to have that happen. Such a massive outlier for the conference and isn’t good at anything
They're good at volleyball and reliving the glory days.

It's truly amazing how many of their players ended up in jail from their glory days. They had 4 players arrested in the French Quarter. How badly do you have to misbehave to get arrested in the French Quarter?
 
I'm too lazy to verify this with facts, but I believe ND Football is required to schedule x number of ACC teams in order to be able to park all of their other sports in the ACC.

They do and it effectively makes them ACC football minus championship game.

They get away with it on SOS because they fill in with some other high profile games, but ND is ACC football at this point in terms of who they mostly play.
 
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ND wants to have their cake and eat it too... unfortunately, nobody - from the networks to college presidents and conference commissioners - has the guts to tell them "no", and instead is willing to bend over backwards to give them exactly what they want. Why would they conform to the rules everyone else has to play by when everyone is so willing to make special rules for them?

I have absolutely zero interest in a scheduling alliance with ND, and no interest in letting them into the conference unless they're willing to become a regular member of the conference - as in, a member that has to play by the exact same rules as everyone else. Otherwise we're going to have yet another Texas scenario on our hands.
 
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Joining the Big12 in a similar deal as they have with the ACC makes sense. Obviously they are above us, and feel better aligned with the ACC, B1G, and old Pac. They are easily the new top dog here though, no other blue bloods to compete against. Obviously they want to stay independent, if they didn’t they’d go to the B1G. I’m guessing they stick with their ACC deal though. But if we end up adding some bball schools which has been talked about a few times and voted down both times, why not add another weird type of half member in ND.