No Bowl Game — Iowa State Turns Down Bowl Bid

Seems hypocritical to say MC deserves to have a statue in Ames, yet when given the chance to hire someone internal to continue the legacy & we chose not to.

If that only person wanting the job was Mouse, I don't fault the decision as he was quite underwhelming as an OC. Someone else on staff would have been much better, but if no one wanted it & Campbell was adamant on who he wanted/no flexibility, then it was just a major difference of opinion. But if he's held in that high of regard to have the statue narrative, then someone internal should have fit, but since it appeared to only have been Mouse, then I think the Campbell camp had their head in the clouds.

The speed of naming Rogers as the new coach was a negative move. Meeting with the players first should have been paramount. But treat them like professionals in the NFL. We (ISU) will make the decision best for the entirety of ISU & if someone outside is more qualified & better candidate, we'll make that choice. The immediate announcement came across as a FU move, at least IMO.

The nature of college football nowadays makes this all a cluster-**** in how to deal with & address. No way to avoid all mistakes, but I think waiting 1 or 2 days & giving players a little more involvement, or at least time to give their voices, would have been a better route. Pollard dropping the details on Rogers asking him earlier what it would take for him getting the position (which his response as he'd need experience as a HC at the FBS level) was a tell - NO ONE on MC's staff met that standard. To me Mouser was not some svengali worth bypassing this standard, but I think Pollard used it was support for not making that decision (hiring Mouse).

TLDR - seems the parties (Campbell's & Pollard's) were to the point they were never going to be able to come to accepting/coming to a consensus, to the point it comes across as personal. An extremely poor position to be in. It will be telling how the NIL issues are addressed going forward.
 
Not even Blum and CW are going to calm this storm down, this meltdown is escalating into a civil war inside Cyclone Nation.

What about their positions would have any sort of impact?

Having a public zoom meeting with the student 'casters?
 
But the post I responded to was criticizing Jimmy Rogers for not honoring his contract. I merely pointed out that CMC did not honor his contract. And CMC‘s breaking his contract led to Rogers breaking his contract.
I believe Matt had a buyout

Contract not broken.

Still hope he fails at Pedo State though
 
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Why waste time waiting for them to choose whether to stay or go. Give them 24 hours to make their choice and the anyone with no response is gone. At least then we know where the bottom of this hole is.
They are meeting 1:1 with the new coach - while the coach is compiling a staff. The portal doesn’t open for another week, it would be best to just let the process play out.

And everybody needs to settle down a bit.
 
And everybody needs to settle down a bit.

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Quit blaming this on Jamie. JHC, what's he supposed to do at this point? Blame Campbell. Blame the coaches or Blame the players for deciding as a group not to play. But don't Pollard.

It’s crazy he gets a pass on everything though. Finances suck. NIL sucks. And he gave away the leverage of CMC buyout.
 
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This fan base has been willing to throw the OC (now Mouser) under the bus, to blame literally anyone but CMC for his failings on offense. How is Mouser now a realistic HC candidate? I thought he was bad?
 
Yes it’s from multiple that reached out to me and I’d trust not to be biased. There a few biased that also reached out but it was largely a more emotional version of the same. They all want the real story out, and mostly because they think the change is still needed and even if they aren’t here, they care about ISU.

The coaches were pissed because they had no warning from CMC until an hour before the team meeting and then had no time to determine what they wanted to do. Matt had ghosted them, Sukup, and many more the 3 days leading up to leaving. Some of the lower ones didn’t interact with the NIL stuff and liked Ames so were blindsided. Others were pissed because they didn’t get a chance to make a case for some continuity. Not all had to worry about the same NIL concerns as the head coach and very leading recruiters.
 
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Well yeah, they aren’t reporters. They are just friends with all the staff.

The situation is still raw enough I’m probably overreacting….but I sincerely hope we can get objective coverage of Rogers and the new regime. Openly pining for Mouser/keeping it “in the family,” while a valid opinion, doesn’t help ingratiate fans to the new coach when it comes from the biggest ISU media personality.
 
They are meeting 1:1 with the new coach - while the coach is compiling a staff. The portal doesn’t open for another week, it would be best to just let the process play out.

And everybody needs to settle down a bit.
He bailed on WSU after preaching loyalty when he was hired. Something tells me the players may not be inclined to listen.
 
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I think people fail to understand how pissed the players are at JP for several ways he’s handled this, how many have already decided to leave, and how awful we’d look with our 3rd stringers starting. Whether you like it or not, we will not have 95% of our starters return, and that includes at QB.

JP simply needed to give up some control and CMC would be here another 10 years. Instead he basically pushes him out, cuts him off during the team meeting, doesn’t answer questions from the couple players that didn’t storm out, and before they could even swallow the news of CMC and the entire staff leaving, introduced the new guy while CMC was trying to speak.

JP built modern ISU athletics, JP could just as easily kill all momentum in the next 18 months. The clock is ticking on BF and TJ because they told JP the same exact needs as CMC. I can tell you TJ would rather be thinking retirement plans in Ames than if he’s going to stick around another 2-3 years without changes to how NIL is handled.
Ok, my lengthy post was before reading this.
Holy ****, it went F worse than I imagined. Pollard comes across as a petulant micro-manager.
F handled horribly.
 
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I am super pissed and almost certainly responding in a very emotional way to all of this right now, but this “civil war” thing is pretty hyperbolic.

A bunch of fans disagreeing on a ******* message board. Let’s call this what it is.
 
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It’s crazy he gets a pass on everything though. Finances suck. NIL sucks. And he gave away the leverage of CMC buyout.
Gave away the leverage? What does that mean?

And finances/NIL suck compared to what? Maybe another AD could do better, but many have done worse.
 
I am super pissed and almost certainly responding in a very emotional way to all of this right now, but this “civil war” thing is pretty hyperbolic.

A bunch of fans disagreeing on a ******* message board. Let’s call this what it is.
I don’t even get what the disagreement / argument is about.
 
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