Matt Campbell to Penn State??

"Does anyone not understand that as a fanbase we need to stop being so cheap?"

Definitely not blaming fans, lol.
And you're saying he and others show up and are indicating "it's always your fault."

ISU fans most likely don't donate as much as our peers, it's just the way it is. I'm not killing you or anyone else that doesn't donate.
 
Not all of them do maybe 20% of the fan base provided 95% of the money to keep the operation going.

ISU fans are a thrifty bunch
Some because they are financially forced into that situation. Others because they are just choose to be. The first group I get it. The second group are a mystery.
I think blaming fans is not the way to go. Especially here. Everyone on this site has contributed in some way. Going to a game helps. Watching on tv helps. Listening on the radio helps. Even accidentally clicking on the pop-up ads when you are trying to click the x on CF helps.

I don't think it's fair to criticize other fans where they decide to use their money. There are certainly more important things in life than helping millionaires become larger millionaires.

Yeah, we want to be good, but trying to shame people into giving more of their money is probably not the way to go.

Enjoy what we have, give what you can, and we love everyone that is able to help in some way!
 
ISU fans can be stingy, I don't think many people would argue against that. At the same time, the schools with all the money have enough people with FU money that irrationally will do whatever financially is necessary to win. Iowa State doesn't have too many of those types and they are what drives the big numbers. I don't know how else schools like LSU have a couple hundred million to burn other than having enough high wealth people who are determined to spend to win at most any cost.
I don't think it's as simple as "blame the fans" to simply state that our fan base is notoriously cheap (we are) and Matt is very much underpaid (his is).

Someone help me, I'm having trouble reconciling the conventional wisdom that ISU fans are cheap with the objective fact that ISU fans have a reputation for strong attendance and traveling well. Seems like those two things would be at odds with each other!
 
I think ISU could survive this if MC does 2 things.
1. Leaves hands off ALL ISU players and recruits.
2. Helps to identify his replacement. Midwesterner. Loyal. Hard working . Good character.
As for money, he’s trading 5 lifetimes of income for 10 lifetimes of income. What does that extra money actually do for someone except sit in the bank?
 
I slept with Kate Upton last night. Was paid handsomely. I feel gross this morning but anything for Matt Campbell.
Huh... Derek Jeter only gave out gift baskets with autographed baseballs. Kate definitely out to show him up!
 
And you're saying he and others show up and are indicating "it's always your fault."

ISU fans most likely don't donate as much as our peers, it's just the way it is. I'm not killing you or anyone else that doesn't donate.

I'm a 25 year season ticket holder and donor - and now tuition-payer - who's tired being told it's not enough.
 
I don't think BC is blaming the fans. It's just reality and it's not football specific. If many of us were chasing a dream, working 100 hrs a week, and believe we can attain it with a 50-75% salary increase to boot, we'd consider bouncing.

I personally don't blame anyone for giving or not giving or choosing to give to something else. We're all in a different spot in life. But there's no reason to shoot the messenger telling a hard truth.
Except you don't understand that NIL and program funding is 80% funded by rich donors. Look around and you'll see everyday Iowa state fans exceedingly pulling their weight. This is about not having the rich donors.
 
Someone help me, I'm having trouble reconciling the conventional wisdom that ISU fans are cheap with the objective fact that ISU fans have a reputation for strong attendance and traveling well. Seems like those two things would be at odds with each other!
Those things don't really count though, you have to do more...more...more.
 
Someone help me, I'm having trouble reconciling the conventional wisdom that ISU fans are cheap with the objective fact that ISU fans have a reputation for strong attendance and traveling well. Seems like those two things would be at odds with each other!
It's really that we are missing the rich whose wealth isn't tied up in low liquidity assets. I would also say ISU's alum are disproportionately farmers who fit this demographic.
 
This is bull crap. Fans and donors give plenty. Use that hundred dollars to help a family in need this Christmas time.
As a side topic, some of the best moments of this site's history have been people donating to St Baldricks for Chris to shave his head or to Blanks Hospital when Pollard got fined.

I'm not snidely posting this but if you have a certain charity you are helping, it never hurts posting on here what it is, in case some people are able to help.
 
Someone help me, I'm having trouble reconciling the conventional wisdom that ISU fans are cheap with the objective fact that ISU fans have a reputation for strong attendance and traveling well. Seems like those two things would be at odds with each other!
They fly Allegiant/SW in the no upgrades seats or carpool with 12 people in a 2005 Suburban, they sleep 8 to a room and buy the cheapest scalped ticket possible and move down when no one is looking. (Been there, done that or have friends that did)

But they will also buy the town out of Busch Light.
 
Someone help me, I'm having trouble reconciling the conventional wisdom that ISU fans are cheap with the objective fact that ISU fans have a reputation for strong attendance and traveling well. Seems like those two things would be at odds with each other!
Its usually the same group of people they do what you say above. Those fans also donate as well. At least a majority of them

Its not group A donates and group B travels to games.


It is what it is. And other schools have their financially conservative section of fanbases too. Its not just ISU
 
Then why wasn’t he their first choice?
They may have simply overlooked him or figured he wouldn't be interested. But it's important to appreciate the effect of bookending the 4-game losing streak with wins before and after. Had we ended up 6-6 or even 7-5, I think Campbell would have been a less attractive candidate.
 
I could see CMC taking this job if PSU said the right things, but I question whether they can or will say the right things. If they walk in talking about winning championships, or cant explain the firing well...