Matt Campbell to Penn State??
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That is how it was then too...there are a few examples of guys moving up...it is a very small number when compared to how many D3 programs there were/are. It does make a bit of sense though...those D3 coaches would be competing for jobs with all of those coaches at higher levels who wanted to move up. I wish it wasn't that way...good coaches are good coaches. Fit certainly matters though but I love cheering for guys who climb the ladder like that!
This is more indicative of the current landscape, no doubt. But back in Kehres' heyday, he had numerous times he could have moved up & chose not to.
I’ve been saying the above on here for years.
These posts are very very accurate.
There is Lance Leipold, but he had time as a D-II coordinator before becoming HC at Wisconsin Whitewater.
That is interesting. Based on nothing more than his public persona both seem like poor fits.
Assuming you’re referring to OSU and ND.
I disagree on ND. That’s like Matt’s perfect scenario. Midwest school. Resources to win. Academic prowess that aligns perfectly with his culture first mentality. He and Freeman are alike in a lot of ways. And by the way ND has a top 5 class this year.
He has us close to 9 wins this year. He had us 10-2 this time last year. Last year ND is in the playoff conversation with that record. They got to keep all $20M in CFP money last year; no pesky conference mates to pay out.
I could see Matt jumping at that opportunity and thriving there.
I never said he would ever even be offered those jobs. He would certainly fit better at ND IMO. Ohio State is a different style.
I just know he views all other jobs as lateral at best.
USC was close, Penn State may be close.
I just go by what I know to have been true.
As Twin said above, things can certainly change, but I haven’t heard they will.
I wouldn’t blame him for taking either, but I’d stomach him at ND far more than OSU.
I tend to agree with this vision. Just throw out all CFB history prior to about 2020 or so. NIL changes, conference realignments and meltdowns, dismantling the NCAA, all recent events point to CFB at large turning into a massive arms race where it's win at all costs, or die. Relevance is tied to competing for titles for teams trying to get near the blue blood club instead of linger with 6-6 mediocrity every year.
I tend to think this concept is hard to understand for SEC and B1G fans, but it's quite clear to us B12 teams, having been on the receiving end of danger many times over now. Those people have never once had to worry about anything at all. The teams around us are acting like they get this concept, too -- BYU and TTU are jumping max speed at trying to get ahead of the others while they still can. It's all auditioning for the future, knowing that the past doesn't count for anything anymore. Today and tomorrow does.
I agree with this, generally, but the fact of the matter is if ND or OSU is Campbell's "dream job," it's incredibly unlikely he would be considered for either of those jobs unless he makes an intermediate move at this point.
Even if Iowa State continues to be a steady program (let's say 7-11 wins per season) until one of those jobs opens up, I can't see him being an "A-List" candidate unless ISU starts regularly competing for conference championships and makes the playoff (maybe even multiple times). I think his stock has fallen enough that he wouldn't realistically be considered unless he is able to elevate ISU higher than they already have gotten or accepts a "stepping stone" job that gives him a chance to show he can do it at a higher level.
That being said, Campbell doesn't really seem like a guy that would take a job he wasn't thrilled about for the potential of landing a bigger one down the road, so it really does feel like if he doesn't make a move now, he will probably be here for a very, very long time.
If a job doesn't have somebody like JP as his potential boss I'd be shocked if he took it. There are very few AD's like JP and everything about how the Penn State search has gone down points toward the opposite.
CMC would be smart to use this opportunity as others have to secure further commitments for his players even if he has no interest in another dollar for himself.
CMC would be smart to use this opportunity as others have to secure further commitments for his players even if he has no interest in another dollar for himself.
How about him ending up at Mt. Union? Perfect situation, close to where he grew up, fun times teaching young men, great culture and football history. He's already made his millions, doesn't need the big bucks.
Earl Bruce and Donnie Duncan
I was very young, but A-OK in my book.
Criner and Walden?
They perfected the on-side kick
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