Matt Campbell to Penn State??

People saying Campbell would not take the Penn State job are strange. They actually still believe in this day and age that a coach won't leave Iowa State for a better gig. Yes, I love my Cyclones but Penn State is a far better job than Iowa State. Way more money, Tradition, easier to recruit. Not saying campbell goes but I would not be one bit shocked. He grew up in Big Ten land. This is a prime job for him.
Larry Kehres stayed at Mount Union for 27 years. You don't think he was offered 'better gigs'?

Anyways, F Pedo State & I hope they slide into mediocrity worse than Nebraska.
 
PSU is a better job in most aspects. But not in job stability, autonomy, or culturally imo.

Now money and success would probably trump those three traits for most people. But that PSU job is going to be a ******** next year. They have 2 incoming HS recruits, and if it’s an outside hire, most of the current roster is going to transfer. So you’re starting from square one.

All that said, as @Cyched commented, if he leaves, he gave us a great 10 year run and that’s all we can really ask for. I’ll wish him well. And there are several coaching candidates that I’d be excited to see take over. My first call would absolutely be to Scheelaase.

I’m also not going to use the words “scared” or “anxiety”. I love MC but he’s just a football coach. This isn’t something to be “scared” of imo.


Yeah but college football coaches like to bet on themselves. So it's only bad job stability if you don't do a good job. Otherwise you are golden.
 
I’m also not going to use the words “scared” or “anxiety”. I love MC but he’s just a football coach. This isn’t something to be “scared” of imo.

Given my industry I have no excuse for being so insensitive.

For those, uhh, rigidly literal-minded folks I retract my use of “anxiety”.

It was non-literal, that is hyperbole.

As someone who is also considered “neurodivergent” due to ADHD I should have known better.

I’m sorry for the confusion.
 
I've always assumed he'd leave for PSU if offered.

However, between the timing, the fact that he is very clearly far down their list, and the way they fired Franklin I'm more optimistic that he'd find it undesirable.

That's kind of where I'm at. You are walking into a bit of a ********. Basically going to be rebuilding a roster from scratch with zero freshman class. You'll definitely have money to spend, but you're filling alot of holes. You also have a fanbase that knows you were with 8th choice and an AD/fanbase that hasn't shown much patience.
 
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Uhh, I’m not sure that is a fair assessment of PSU.

Franklin was fired during his 11th season.

Who was the last coach to be fired by PSU before Franklin?

No, really?

He might be the only HC ever fired at PSU. They’ve played 138 seasons.

I don’t have the patience to research it, but regardless he is definitely the first coach they’ve fired in over 100 years.

And again, he had been there over a decade.

Edit: This and the small town environment of State College is why I think PSU is perfect for Campbell and Campbell is perfect for PSU.

Edit 2: Ha. I forgot they actually fired Paterno. But still, that was more because that was back when child rape was a (semi) punishable offense. Regardless, there is no reason to think Campbell would have to worry about being fired for cause.
Yeah I was thinking the same here. Will expectations be high? Of course, they are a power football program. That said, firing Franklin midseason is not an indication of them being a championship or you're fired in 3 years type of school. Franklin was actually in his 12th season this year! That's a pretty long tenure. It was fan apathy about him that did him in. Campbell had as good/better record against top 10/top 25 teams at ISU than Franklin at PSU for crying out loud. Franklin racked up a decent number of wins, but that long track record of failure against good teams is what did him in.
 
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Penn State will end up with either a mid major HC, coordinator or if things go extremely south, one of the slimy retreads (Freeze/Petrino/Brian Kelly/etc.). No established coach with options is going to jump at that job after what they pulled on Franklin.
 
Dan Patrick had a source this morning that said Pen St was going to go the interim route for next year and then go after a full time head coach next year.

Patrick is old-school and probably wouldn’t just blow smoke—or have someone on to do that, not sure who you’re saying reported this—but if that’s true…I guess it’s apt, because that’s waving the white flag. What, you tell Sitake, “Hey, my door is always open”? Wait for someone else to get fired? No way the fanbase is getting on board with that. You don’t know what other schools or NFL teams will be hiring, either. No, if you’re going the actual interim route you would’ve announced it the minute after your season ended. Doing so now would mean every criticism of Kraft online is true
 
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To put it another way, Matt Campbell has a better record against top 10 teams than James Franklin did at Penn St.
Exactly. And to do that at Iowa State compared to the resources Franklin had at Penn State is an indictment on Franklin's coaching ability as much as it's a compliment to Matt.
 
Yeah I was thinking the same here. Will expectations be high? Of course, they are a power football program. That said, firing Franklin midseason is not an indication of them being a championship or you're fired in 3 years type of school. Franklin was actually in his 12th season this year! That's a pretty long tenure. It was fan apathy about him that did him in. Campbell had as good/better record against top 10/top 25 teams at ISU than Franklin at PSU for crying out loud. Franklin racked up a decent number of wins, but that long track record of failure against good teams is what did him in.
Thanks for the correction.

I’m very prone to off-by-one errors.

Edit: Also, I knew they had been exceptionally stable, but assumed Paterno skewed it dramatically. I really think they have literally only fired 2 coaches (Paterno and Franklin).
 
That's kind of where I'm at. You are walking into a bit of a ********. Basically going to be rebuilding a roster from scratch with zero freshman class. You'll definitely have money to spend, but you're filling alot of holes. You also have a fanbase that knows you were with 8th choice and an AD/fanbase that hasn't shown much patience.

This isn't 2015. How many of ISU's current roster would go with him?

I don't think he's leaving but if he does it's actually better for him that they don't have a ton of guys coming in that he didn't recruit. He can ask his current players to go with him to bridge the gap and some of them likely would.
 
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Given my industry I have no excuse for being so insensitive.

For those, uhh, rigidly literal-minded folks I retract my use of “anxiety”.

It was non-literal, that is hyperbole.

As someone who is also considered “neurodivergent” due to ADHD I should have known better.

I’m sorry for the confusion.
You’re all good. Not trying to call you (or anyone) out, just trying to add perspective.
 
Larry Kehres stayed at Mount Union for 27 years. You don't think he was offered 'better gigs'?

Anyways, F Pedo State & I hope they slide into mediocrity worse than Nebraska.


Thats one coach though. It's almost impossible to find a bunch of coaches that did that. Most of them move on to the next biggest gig.
 
From what Campbell and built to the message he constantly preaches...he definitely going to be okay with being the 8th choice and take a job at this point where he would likely be so far behind he'd be fired in 2-3 years. PSU is best of going with the interm guy for at least next year at this point so that they can hit their hire early next season.
 
We're leaving out an awful lot of context on why Franklin got fired. Yes, he was in the semi-final last year, however, that doesn't cancel out a decade of not being able to beat Michigan and Ohio State or win really any big game.

He also got to play SMU and Boise to get to that semifinal.
I've been thinking he's exactly what VT needed and maybe just not the right guy at a TIPPY TOP job.
 
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Thats one coach though. It's almost impossible to find a bunch of coaches that did that. Most of them move on to the next biggest gig.
And D3 coaches historically (no matter how successful) have not had a lot of chances to move up. They often move around D3 for better opportunities but for whatever reason D3 coaches were labeled a "D3 coach" like it was an illness.
 
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And D3 coaches historically (no matter how successful) have not had a lot of chances to move up. They often move around D3 for better opportunities but for whatever reason D3 coaches were labeled a "D3 coach" like it was an illness.
I don't think anyone trusts them to recruit. It's an entirely different ballgame.

I know Chris Winter at Wartburg has been looking to move up the chain and hasn't had any luck getting any traction.
 
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I know coaches will do coach things but after just signing this class of kids I don't see Campbell leaving and leaving ISU and the kids in a lurch. CMC has shown time and again that he's not your typical coach. I can see him talking with Penn State because why wouldnt you, but he's not leaving. The amount of pressure and hate you get with a fanbase like Penn State would be incredible.
 
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