Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Dead on. If it were about controlling costs for the G6, they'd all have dropped to the FCS a long time ago where they can play for a lesser national title and not get the exposure that they currently do.
They don't drop down to FCS because of drastically reduced media payouts in doing so and not being able to fund their other existing D1 sports.

With media rights pooling and a separate G5 FB playoff, they double/triple their media payouts, enable all teams/conferences to fairly compete for a national title (like every other NCAA sport), and gain far more exposure in the process with their separate playoff.
 
They don't drop down to FCS because of drastically reduced media payouts in doing so and not being able to fund their other existing D1 sports.

With media rights pooling and a separate G5 FB playoff, they double/triple their media payouts, enable all teams/conferences to fairly compete for a national title (like every other NCAA sport), and gain far more exposure in the process with their separate playoff.
There are dozens of schools that play FCS football that run far smaller deficits than the G6 while being far more successful in sports other than football.

Go take a look at the ratings of low level bowl games versus the FCS playoffs and let me know how a lesser playoff leads to greater exposure. All a G6 playoff would be would be 'obligation' programming for ESPN or whoever and would get no coverage just like the FCS playoffs currently do.
 
There are dozens of schools that play FCS football that run far smaller deficits than the G6 while being far more successful in sports other than football.

Go take a look at the ratings of low level bowl games versus the FCS playoffs and let me know how a lesser playoff leads to greater exposure. All a G6 playoff would be would be 'obligation' programming for ESPN or whoever and would get no coverage just like the FCS playoffs currently do.
Nice spin there to deflect to deficits instead of gross media revenues where G5 far exceeds FCS.

And not surprisingly, you missed the boat on ratings as well. A lower level bowl with semi final playoff stakes will far outdraw that same existing bowl with no playoff stakes.

And a G5 championship game in the early window on NYD would draw real good ratings followed by two P7 semi final games.
 
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How rich can I be before I am automatically amoral?
I will assume it is a number that is larger than your personal net worth, but when does the amorality kick in?

Realted question- can the poor be amoral? Or are they automatically moral due to their poverty?

edit- didn't see we have clocked out on this sub-sub-sub topic. nevermind!
Shoot I'm amoral and I don't have hardly any money at all!
 
The first domino in the end of the OVC fell this morning.

Little Rock is leaving for the UAC (former WAC). SEMO and UT Martin are expected to make the same move shortly. Tennessee Tech already announced they're leaving for the SoCon. Tennessee State is known to have a standing offer from the SWAC.

That leaves the OVC with 6 and there is a moratorium on D2 callups until 2027 outside of the 3 schools that have filed paperwork to move (Nova Southeastern, Lincoln Memorial, West Florida) and none of those make any sense for the OVC.
 
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That's a pretty huge entity and likely wants "alternative" investments, so this would make sense to me if I was on the investment cmmtte. $190B assets, its basically the investment arm of the U of Cal system endowment (if I understand right).

I assume they'd be pretty hands-off in terms of management, which wouldn't be terrible. But they are probably going to want 10% ROI, I would think. They can get 4.5% on 20 or 30 year bonds, this is probably a similar time horizon, and not risk free. Maybe they are OK getting only 2-3% over the risk free rate, but idk.

For the conference, this would be cheaper than PE, who is likely to want a higher return. PE's don't have unlimited money to invest and want the best return.

I still think if any conference wanted money that bad, a 30 year bond offer at 10% would be better than giving up eternal equity at 8%.

One thing though, this is directly tied to UCLA (and Cal for that matter) - its basically the U of Cal system endowment investment group. So you have an entity that directly serves one of your conference members, and you are selling them off a chunk of your media revenue. It'd be like the Big12 selling off a 25% of the future tv money to Cody Campbell for $1B. Is that a good idea?

If it is, then the ACC needs to get Stanford's endowment folks on the line yesterday. Maybe the Big12 can talk to all their collective endowments, and sell shares in the tv money in exchange for cash now, JG Wentworth style. At least you get the money from a related party, and likely more favorable terms. The universities can't throw in cash, but the endowments can... But you still gotta pay it back.
 
That's a pretty huge entity and likely wants "alternative" investments, so this would make sense to me if I was on the investment cmmtte. $190B assets, its basically the investment arm of the U of Cal system endowment (if I understand right).

I assume they'd be pretty hands-off in terms of management, which wouldn't be terrible. But they are probably going to want 10% ROI, I would think. They can get 4.5% on 20 or 30 year bonds, this is probably a similar time horizon, and not risk free. Maybe they are OK getting only 2-3% over the risk free rate, but idk.

For the conference, this would be cheaper than PE, who is likely to want a higher return. PE's don't have unlimited money to invest and want the best return.

I still think if any conference wanted money that bad, a 30 year bond offer at 10% would be better than giving up eternal equity at 8%.

One thing though, this is directly tied to UCLA (and Cal for that matter) - its basically the U of Cal system endowment investment group. So you have an entity that directly serves one of your conference members, and you are selling them off a chunk of your media revenue. It'd be like the Big12 selling off a 25% of the future tv money to Cody Campbell for $1B. Is that a good idea?

If it is, then the ACC needs to get Stanford's endowment folks on the line yesterday. Maybe the Big12 can talk to all their collective endowments, and sell shares in the tv money in exchange for cash now, JG Wentworth style. At least you get the money from a related party, and likely more favorable terms. The universities can't throw in cash, but the endowments can... But you still gotta pay it back.
To what end? Why do these athletic departments need cash now?
 

Cody is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts," Yormark said. "I've never said pooling media rights will increase revenue. The only thing I have said is that hope isn't a strategy. There are unintended consequences to amending the [1961 Sports Broadcasting Act] that Cody and his team need to better understand.
"I have never stated -- publicly or privately -- that pooling media rights would increase revenue, nor do I believe that it would," Sankey said. "His misrepresentation of my position raises serious concerns about the accuracy of his other claims. ... His comments reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of the realities of college athletics."
 
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That's a pretty huge entity and likely wants "alternative" investments, so this would make sense to me if I was on the investment cmmtte. $190B assets, its basically the investment arm of the U of Cal system endowment (if I understand right).

I assume they'd be pretty hands-off in terms of management, which wouldn't be terrible. But they are probably going to want 10% ROI, I would think. They can get 4.5% on 20 or 30 year bonds, this is probably a similar time horizon, and not risk free. Maybe they are OK getting only 2-3% over the risk free rate, but idk.

For the conference, this would be cheaper than PE, who is likely to want a higher return. PE's don't have unlimited money to invest and want the best return.

I still think if any conference wanted money that bad, a 30 year bond offer at 10% would be better than giving up eternal equity at 8%.

One thing though, this is directly tied to UCLA (and Cal for that matter) - its basically the U of Cal system endowment investment group. So you have an entity that directly serves one of your conference members, and you are selling them off a chunk of your media revenue. It'd be like the Big12 selling off a 25% of the future tv money to Cody Campbell for $1B. Is that a good idea?

If it is, then the ACC needs to get Stanford's endowment folks on the line yesterday. Maybe the Big12 can talk to all their collective endowments, and sell shares in the tv money in exchange for cash now, JG Wentworth style. At least you get the money from a related party, and likely more favorable terms. The universities can't throw in cash, but the endowments can... But you still gotta pay it back.
I think this is also trying to get leverage Cal into the B10. Apollo another PE firm with a ton of Duke grads is trying to get Duke in as well. Apollo values the the B10 at 20B while this fund just valued them at 24B
 
Debt. Big 10 teams have a combined 2.5B in debt. With Rev share it’s becoming harder to continue to upgrade facilities, pay rev share, and pay debt back
So there going to take the federal government move of bankrupting their future without the ability to print money?
 


If this is the angle of reports now, this is for sure happening. Reports don’t come out that they’re “advancing towards a vote” unless they already have the votes to approve
 


If this is the angle of reports now, this is for sure happening. Reports don’t come out that they’re “advancing towards a vote” unless they already have the votes to approve

Agreed, Michigan was the big roadblock for PE but with this new org not being PE they have decided to go along with it from most of the board.

Know usually the big ten likes to be all in favor for votes for issues like this so yeah you’re right
 


If this is the angle of reports now, this is for sure happening. Reports don’t come out that they’re “advancing towards a vote” unless they already have the votes to approve


This is likely to come with further expansion, which is why the BIG wants to greatly expand the CFP

Good move for BIG HQ. Shunning investors that want in on the top of college athletics would have accelerated investors creating a different superleague. And the BIG needs an overall mass advantage when competing against the superior SEC

Basically, the Alliance is going to exist, but just by having most pertinent members as all under the BIG brand, sans a few schools that may opt to join the SEC
 
Agreed, Michigan was the big roadblock for PE but with this new org not being PE they have decided to go along with it from most of the board.

Know usually the big ten likes to be all in favor for votes for issues like this so yeah you’re right
I mean, it’s still PE. It’s not a hedge fund if that’s what you’re thinking. But it’s still a outside investment firm that is going to secure equity and expect an ROI