Cracks in the B1G?

[Kinch]

This is what every conference does when expanding. The B1G and SEC were just better positioned to take bigger brands/programs. If the Big 12 could've added UCLA, it would have in a heart beat and Big 12 fans would've been thrilled.

The only reason the Big 10 was in a better position was because they were predators.

 

[Gonzo]

I’ll say I agree maybe 50% with this. Houston is good at basketball and regional. That is why we valued them. I don’t think TV really wanted us to add any PAC. As displayed by us taking an paycut to get the four.

And if TV did, I assume they’d would want us to pursue Stanford and Cal aggressively, due to the DMAs they’re in. I don’t think either party had any interest in each other during expansion. Why would TV want us to get Utah? We already had the major player in the market with BYU.

That's basically Maryland in the B1G.

 

[Kinch]

Lol, was it Learfield's report? Sounds like they just wrote about "one report" placing Iowa 64th.

“For the 2023-24 LEARFIELD Directors' Cup season, the University of Iowa (Hawkeyes) finished 64th in the NCAA Division I standings, a drop from its 48th place finish the previous year.”

 

[Gonzo]

The only reason the Big 10 was in a better position was because they were predators.

No, it's because it had deeper pockets, more resources, better TV markets, a better media deal, it's own TV network...

 

[Gonzo]

“For the 2023-24 LEARFIELD Directors' Cup season, the University of Iowa (Hawkeyes) finished 64th in the NCAA Division I standings, a drop from its 48th place finish the previous year.”

So with that ranking you were talking the Director's Cup? Lol.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

That's basically Maryland in the B1G.

Maryland is in the Midwest now? Get out of here.

Maryland was added to get the DC market. That’s it.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The only reason the Big 10 was in a better position was because they were predators.

Sure, that’s the ONLY reason lol

 

[Kinch]

I never made that argument. They have several fan bases that suck unless things are going well. Just like every other league.

You just agreed “100%” with the assessment that the Big 10 added teams with bad fan bases.

 

[Gonzo]

Maryland is in the Midwest now? Get out of here

It's contiguous to Pennsylvania. Penn St. has been in the B1G for over 30 years.

 

[Kinch]

No, it's because it had deeper pockets, more resources, better TV markets, a better media deal, it's own TV network...

Be more specific. it’s because they put Fox on the board. And Fox is a predator.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

It's contiguous to Pennsylvania. Penn St. has been in the B1G for over 30 years.

Now you’re really grasping at straws. Pennsylvania borders Canada. Have you all considered University of Toronto to give the Nittany Lions another regional matchup?

 

[Gonzo]

Be more specific. it’s because they put Fox on the board. And Fox is a predator.

I'm not saying it wasn't predatory, but all that other stuff is true as well.

 

[Kinch]

It's contiguous to Pennsylvania. Penn St. has been in the B1G for over 30 years.

I guess that makes Oregon contiguous to Rutgers.

 

[Gonzo]

Now you’re really grasping at straws. Pennsylvania borders Canada. Have you all considered University of Toronto to give the Nittany Lions another regional matchup?

And UCF is closer to Cuba than probably 90% of the Big 12, if not more. Lol.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

And UCF is closer to Cuba than probably 90% of the Big 12, if not more. Lol.

Yes, I already acknowledged they’re an outlier geographically. They also fill their stadium to 97% capacity and average a higher attendance than Rutgers, Maryland, and Illinois.

 

[State2015]

Couple reasons starting from the fact that Michigan has more money then just about anyone else so they don’t need it and more importantly Michigan wouldn’t want to do anything that helps OSU which this would.

Ahhhhh yes. The US is famous for insanely rich people, corporations, and entities saying “hey I’ve got enough money I don’t need this”

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Ahhhhh yes. The US is famous for insanely rich people, corporations, and entities saying “hey I’ve got enough money I don’t need this”

Yep, good news it’s a university not a cooperation or individual. It’s very much a not for profit entity

 

[Statefan10]

And UCF is closer to Cuba than probably 90% of the Big 12, if not more. Lol.

Miami is closer to Cuba than Florida State

 

[Statefan10]

Yep, good news it’s a university not a cooperation or individual. It’s very much a not for profit entity

…….. right..

 

[Kinch]

So with that ranking you were talking the Director's Cup? Lol.

Yes, the one Iowa touted when they were ranked 30th years ago and gave Barta a raise. lol.