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They've been doing that for years.It's amusing how the University of Iowa always waits to report their enrollment numbers until after ISU has reported theirs. Iowa can be pretty creative when they report their numbers and they like to wait so they know the number they have to try to beat.
The pay to housing prices ratio has gotten so out of whack, its a huge factor there.Population decline is going to affect ******* everything, and there seems to be a real lack of awareness of this.
I try explaining this to everyone who goes "no one wants to work anymore". No, there just aren't as many people as there used to be of that age.
Community college: more efficient with less depthThe pay to housing prices ratio has gotten so out of whack, its a huge factor there.
I have found AI to be incredibly brilliant, and I found the college system to be incredibly inefficient, am I off base here? Is it employers still requiring the degrees?
Population decline is going to affect ******* everything, and there seems to be a real lack of awareness of this.
I try explaining this to everyone who goes "no one wants to work anymore". No, there just aren't as many people as there used to be of that age.
A high schooler good in Math and some drive could trained by AI and mentored by AI to be a good accountant very quickly, then setup a local LLM that knows the accounting firms customers like the back of their hand to answer any and all question that would arise??? I guess the only thing missing is the buffer that college provides to learn a bunch of soft skills and transition into adulting.Community college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth
And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?
I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.
I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.
There's plenty of space for both.
I mean, as long as you ignore all of the privacy and confidentiality issues that arise with that, sure!A high schooler good in Math and some drive could trained by AI and mentored by AI to be a good accountant very quickly, then setup a local LLM that knows the accounting firms customers like the back of their hand to answer any and all question that would arise??? I guess the only thing missing is the buffer that college provides to learn a bunch of soft skills and transition into adulting.
Artificial Intelligence has been a very specific pain in my ass.
Those are positives but usually what they mean about well rounded is making them take history, art, dance, wine tasting type classes instead of periphery type classes to their majors. Adds an extra semester to a year to the bachelors degreeCommunity college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth
And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?
I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.
I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.
There's plenty of space for both.
Population decline is going to affect ******* everything, and there seems to be a real lack of awareness of this.
I try explaining this to everyone who goes "no one wants to work anymore". No, there just aren't as many people as there used to be of that age.
That doesn't sound like a pain in the ass at all right now.Wife left you for the chatbot?
Whoa you are both oversimplifying things and overestimating AI’s abilities.A high schooler good in Math and some drive could trained by AI and mentored by AI to be a good accountant very quickly, then setup a local LLM that knows the accounting firms customers like the back of their hand to answer any and all question that would arise??? I guess the only thing missing is the buffer that college provides to learn a bunch of soft skills and transition into adulting.
I think that’s correct. The birth rate has been declining, some private colleges are going to struggle to keep their doors open in the future.I’m pretty sure the population of college age kids is going down.
When Iowa taxpayers continue to subsidize Illinois students.They've been doing that for years.
Whatever, I’m going to get AI to make me a surgeon.Whoa you are both oversimplifying things and overestimating AI’s abilities.
You’re speaking like someone who reads a lot about AI in the news, but doesn’t use it on a day to day basis
An associate degree in accounting is more like bookkeeping knowledge.Community college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth
And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?
I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.
I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.
There's plenty of space for both.
Before we get too worked up about being replaced by AI, I think AI needs to figure out the difficult concept of greater than or less than. Pretty sure ISU at 31,705 is bigger than ToE at 31,563. Which would therefore make ISU the largest school in the state.Here is what AI has to say:
For Fall 2025, Iowa State University has a total enrollment of 31,705 students, with a freshman class of 6,160. The University of Iowa, while not provided in the initial query, remains the largest of Iowa's public universities, and for Fall 2025, its enrollment is 31,563.
Iowa State University (Fall 2025)
University of Iowa (Fall 2025)
- Total Enrollment: 31,705
- Freshman Class: 6,160
Key Comparison Points (Fall 2025)
- Total Enrollment: 31,563
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- Total Enrollment: Iowa State has a slightly larger total enrollment.
- Freshman Class: Iowa State has a larger freshman class.