ISU Student Enrollment

It's amusing how the University of Iowa always waits to report their enrollment numbers until after ISU has reported theirs. Iowa can be pretty creative when they report their numbers and they like to wait so they know the number they have to try to beat.
They've been doing that for years.
 
Population decline is going to affect ******* everything, and there seems to be a real lack of awareness of this.

I try explaining this to everyone who goes "no one wants to work anymore". No, there just aren't as many people as there used to be of that age.
The pay to housing prices ratio has gotten so out of whack, its a huge factor there.

I have found AI to be incredibly brilliant, and I found the college system to be incredibly inefficient, am I off base here? Is it employers still requiring the degrees?
 
The pay to housing prices ratio has gotten so out of whack, its a huge factor there.

I have found AI to be incredibly brilliant, and I found the college system to be incredibly inefficient, am I off base here? Is it employers still requiring the degrees?
Community college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth

And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?

I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.

I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.

There's plenty of space for both.
 
Here is what AI has to say:

For Fall 2025, Iowa State University has a total enrollment of 31,705 students, with a freshman class of 6,160. The University of Iowa, while not provided in the initial query, remains the largest of Iowa's public universities, and for Fall 2025, its enrollment is 31,563.

Iowa State University (Fall 2025)
  • Total Enrollment: 31,705
  • Freshman Class: 6,160
University of Iowa (Fall 2025)
  • Total Enrollment: 31,563
Key Comparison Points (Fall 2025)
  • Total Enrollment: Iowa State has a slightly larger total enrollment.
  • Freshman Class: Iowa State has a larger freshman class.
Herky is flea ridden and her breath reeks of roadkill.
 
Population decline is going to affect ******* everything, and there seems to be a real lack of awareness of this.

I try explaining this to everyone who goes "no one wants to work anymore". No, there just aren't as many people as there used to be of that age.

Yes.

It has an huge impact on college athletics

A driver behind realignment. Networks are trying to preserve profits in an era in which they’re about to lose the biggest appointment-linear TV generation (boomers)

Big 10 Schools are looking to get exposure in south where population is growing

Residential education is a luxury good. High major college athletics is going to be a bigger product differentiator
 
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Community college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth

And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?

I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.

I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.

There's plenty of space for both.
A high schooler good in Math and some drive could trained by AI and mentored by AI to be a good accountant very quickly, then setup a local LLM that knows the accounting firms customers like the back of their hand to answer any and all question that would arise??? I guess the only thing missing is the buffer that college provides to learn a bunch of soft skills and transition into adulting.
 
A high schooler good in Math and some drive could trained by AI and mentored by AI to be a good accountant very quickly, then setup a local LLM that knows the accounting firms customers like the back of their hand to answer any and all question that would arise??? I guess the only thing missing is the buffer that college provides to learn a bunch of soft skills and transition into adulting.
I mean, as long as you ignore all of the privacy and confidentiality issues that arise with that, sure!

AI can be a good resource but its wrong A LOT. Intuit has been trying to use AI forever to make bookkeeping and tax returns easier. Their work is hot garbage. Being wrong with tax for example can cost significant damages.
 
Community college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth

And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?

I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.

I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.

There's plenty of space for both.
Those are positives but usually what they mean about well rounded is making them take history, art, dance, wine tasting type classes instead of periphery type classes to their majors. Adds an extra semester to a year to the bachelors degree
 
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Population decline is going to affect ******* everything, and there seems to be a real lack of awareness of this.

I try explaining this to everyone who goes "no one wants to work anymore". No, there just aren't as many people as there used to be of that age.

Our local high school has lost around 20% of the 2018 enrollment.

It's not that the town is drying up. A whole lot of aging in place.

Just a wild guess, but looking out the window I see homes with probably 27 bedrooms. We had a new family move in. So I believe we have 6 kids (?) for those bedrooms.

Almost half are filled with an empty nest and one has snowbirds.
 
A high schooler good in Math and some drive could trained by AI and mentored by AI to be a good accountant very quickly, then setup a local LLM that knows the accounting firms customers like the back of their hand to answer any and all question that would arise??? I guess the only thing missing is the buffer that college provides to learn a bunch of soft skills and transition into adulting.
Whoa you are both oversimplifying things and overestimating AI’s abilities.

You’re speaking like someone who reads a lot about AI in the news, but doesn’t use it on a day to day basis
 
Community college: more efficient with less depth
University: less efficient with more depth

And thats how it should be IMO. Someone coming to me from ISU with a 4 year accounting degree should be more well rounded than someone coming to me from DMACC with an associates. That's ok. The inherent nature of four year programs is a lack of efficiency because in order to have a well rounded education you need more than just your focus program. The accounting professors at ISU shouldn't be trying to teach communications. Why have someone teach something they dont know a damn thing about?

I expect the associates degree to have a solid foundation in accounting.

I expect the bachelor's degree to be damn solid at accounting and know just enough to be dangerous about marketing, finance, math, comms, etc.

There's plenty of space for both.
An associate degree in accounting is more like bookkeeping knowledge.

They won't have enough classes to sit for the cpa exam.
 
Here is what AI has to say:

For Fall 2025, Iowa State University has a total enrollment of 31,705 students, with a freshman class of 6,160. The University of Iowa, while not provided in the initial query, remains the largest of Iowa's public universities, and for Fall 2025, its enrollment is 31,563.

Iowa State University (Fall 2025)
  • Total Enrollment: 31,705
  • Freshman Class: 6,160
University of Iowa (Fall 2025)
  • Total Enrollment: 31,563
Key Comparison Points (Fall 2025)
  • Total Enrollment: Iowa State has a slightly larger total enrollment.
  • Freshman Class: Iowa State has a larger freshman class.
Herky is flea ridden and her breath reeks of roadkill.
Before we get too worked up about being replaced by AI, I think AI needs to figure out the difficult concept of greater than or less than. Pretty sure ISU at 31,705 is bigger than ToE at 31,563. Which would therefore make ISU the largest school in the state.

With all due respect to our future AI overlords, of course.