Williams & Blum: The Florida State / Clemson conversation

[cyfan92]

I thought about this too. And its not like there isn't a president for this already. We have football only conferences today with the MVFC.

Not sure why ISU volleyball is going to WVU and UCF when playing Drake and UNI would get just as many eyeballs if not more. I don't even think these kids would care either. Way less travel time for them too.

Yes and sports can still travel to far off tournaments for non-conference events. Just doesn't make sense anymore to fly a volleyball team to Provo on a Tuesday in January.

 

[ClubCy]

Both networks need content and marquee games. Like content for ESPN2, News, FS1, and their streaming services. The primetime matchups for FOX, ESPN, ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Yes that’s also a point I was trying to make but didn’t mention.

 

[LarryISU]

The more I think of it from a commonsense perspective, FSU and Clemson offer far more value to the Big 12 than they do the BIG and SEC. Yomark will find a way to monetize that.

The Big 12 is in very good shape. ESPN, Fox, etc, know they can't kill it. A big 12 with FSU and Clemson doesn't really threaten the p2, it just narrows the gap.

I'd say the chances are 50 percent or more that FSU and Clemson, if they succeed in getting out of the ACC in the next year, land in the Big 12.

Is there any difference in the money FSU and Clemson get now and what the Big 12 pays? Or are we just attractive because of our stability?

 

[Freebird]

This guy is a tad off his rocker so take it for what it's worth. He mentioned Nebraska and Penn State possibly joining SEC

This account is ********. I don’t know why people still quote it or follow it. It’s complete fiction

 

[Pope]

This is despite a 3-9 season.
Anyone who doesnt want VT in their conference is nuts.
ISU is the only team that has fans as passionate as VT. they're nuts even when VT sux.

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I know some folks who worked at Virginia Tech. They talk a lot about how their football players had lots of encounters with local law enforcement. He said they referred to the city's jail as the hokey pokey.

 

[Nolaeer]

Is there any difference in the money FSU and Clemson get now and what the Big 12 pays? Or are we just attractive because of our stability?

there is noise that private equity money would be used to pay fsu and clemson sec money in the big 12.

 

[theshadow]

Is there any difference in the money FSU and Clemson get now and what the Big 12 pays? Or are we just attractive because of our stability?

As of last year (22-23), what they got from the ACC would have been just above average in the Big 12.

 

[cyclones12321]

If all these teams join and conferences continue to make super conferences, do conferences change their name? Why call it the b12 when you got 20 teams or b10 when you have 30 teams?

 

[LarryISU]

If all these teams join and conferences continue to make super conferences, do conferences change their name? Why call it the b12 when you got 20 teams or b10 when you have 30 teams?

Because then you can't be B3G. See. That just doesn't work.
Actually, I think most fans agree the conference names could change, but the problem is, when do we know we have reached stability? No time soon, that's for sure. Why change to Big 16, and then in a year or two you have 20 teams? As long as realignment is alive, I'm not sure you can change your name.

 

[cyclones500]

Because then you can't be B3G. See. That just doesn't work.
Actually, I think most fans agree the conference names could change, but the problem is, when do we know we have reached stability? No time soon, that's for sure. Why change to Big 16, and then in a year or two you have 20 teams? As long as realignment is alive, I'm not sure you can change your name.

A wild thing: With additional expansion, Big XII name could reference the # of states represented, instead of membership.

Arizona
Colorado
Florida
Iowa
Kansas
Ohio
Oklahoma
Texas
Utah
West Virginia

If Clemson & Florida State happen to join, that attains South Carolina (FSU duplicate of UCF), leaving one more slot.

If membership continues to extend after that, it could become "moot" if a 13th state comes aboard. Heh!

 

[Nolaeer]

A wild thing: With additional expansion, Big XII name could reference the # of states represented, instead of membership.

Arizona
Colorado
Florida
Iowa
Kansas
Ohio
Oklahoma
Texas
Utah
West Virginia

If Clemson & Florida State happen to join, that attains South Carolina (FSU duplicate of UCF), leaving one more slot.

If membership continues to extend after that, it could become "moot" if a 13th state comes aboard. Heh!

Or, take a check and just call it the All State Conference. FWIW, the big 12's 16 teams generate 380 million in tv revenue annually. Adding fsu and clemson is estimated to add 100 to 150 million million additional tv dollars annually. in money terms, adding them even at a premium makes sense.