Will the BIG10 Reverse Their Decision?

[3GenClone]

Iowa State has created a Dashboard with on-campus testing results

COVID-19 Testing • Iowa State University COVID-19 Weekly Public Health Data Update

asqk.ehs.iastate.edu

 

[kcbob79clone]

Solid clarification.
But, a 28.8% positivity rate among that population is extremely alarming. Friends of friends in Syracuse NY said their positivity rate is less than 1%. The state of New York went through hell being the original ground zero in the US. They had to learn how to respond, and the medical community had to learn how to best treat the virus. They are now using 3% as the rate to determine if schools can conduct in class instruction. This thing can be controlled with leadership and discipline. Sadly, this state has neither.

Sadly a lot of people had to die for NY to learn the lesson. That said Iowa has a much better deaths per one hundred thousand than NY or NYC. It's horrible when you add the NY and NYC deaths together.

Like the UK said, we have more cases because we are testing more.

 

[cycloneG]

Sadly a lot of people had to die for NY to learn the lesson. That said Iowa has a much better deaths per one hundred thousand than NY or NYC. It's horrible when you add the NY and NYC deaths together.

Like the UK said, we have more cases because we are testing more.

If that were true, our positivity rate wouldn't be so high. More testing should drive down the positivity rate unless the spread is really bad.

 

[BryceC]

Makes you think that the classes aren't the source of the community spread, doesn't it? Almost like college kids are doing things out of class that is making the problems on campus much worse. So if the athletics dept can keep the players from participating in those activities (good luck), maybe this can go on without issue?

This is 100% the case.

I saw a professor friend of mine last night and he was talking about how they are doing all of this contact tracing stuff and basically it's showing that it's not being spread in classrooms. He brought this up because I was basically asking how long they'll be able to have in person classes, he thought they weren't going to cancel based on that.

 

[Cyclad]

Sadly a lot of people had to die for NY to learn the lesson. That said Iowa has a much better deaths per one hundred thousand than NY or NYC. It's horrible when you add the NY and NYC deaths together.

Like the UK said, we have more cases because we are testing more.

Well, I hope you read the article I attached.
Our positivity is high because we are not testing enough. At our rates, it just means we do not know how high our real problem is. If ISU is finding 28%, that means they have a whole bunch of asymptomatic potential spreaders wandering around. Low positivity rates mean you are testing enough to know there is not a lot of virus floating around in your area and you have much lower risk.

 

[qwerty]

Solid clarification.
But, a 28.8% positivity rate among that population is extremely alarming.

I was always surprised targeted testing didn't have a higher rate of positivity. I mean you are ONLY testing those you suspect of having it or being exposed to it. So 30% doesn't surprise me, but I would love to have a low rate so we can continue with mitigation efforts and not do a full lockdown.

 

[BCClone]

Iowa State has created a Dashboard with on-campus testing results

COVID-19 Testing • Iowa State University COVID-19 Weekly Public Health Data Update

asqk.ehs.iastate.edu

This says 18.6, the idph says story county is 22.6% (a 0.1% drop from yesterday so it is at least leveling, today was 12.5% area), so where did that 28something percent the one poster posted come from?

 

[cycloneG]

This says 18.6, the idph says story county is 22.6% (a 0.1% drop from yesterday so it is at least leveling, today was 12.5% area), so where did that 28something percent the one poster posted come from?

Iowa State to open new COVID-19 testing center - News Service

www.news.iastate.edu

 

[BCClone]

Iowa State to open new COVID-19 testing center - News Service

www.news.iastate.edu

Ok, so it was taking a week. Like I mentioned before, the good news is that the positive rate is trending down, can't remember all the days, but today was mid 12s. So the third week should pull back a bunch and hopefully keep moving down.

 

[qwerty]

Iowa State has created a Dashboard with on-campus testing results

COVID-19 Testing • Iowa State University COVID-19 Weekly Public Health Data Update

asqk.ehs.iastate.edu

So there are 38,322 faculty/staff/students at ISU and 665 positive tests (1.7% of population). And yes, that percentage is guaranteed to go up as the denominator is set (38,322) and the numerator (665) will only increase.

 

[Trice]

This is interesting.

 

[clonedude]

This is interesting.

If this study ends up being accurate.... it could pull the plug on all football this fall.

I have no idea what to believe anymore. I would actually trust this study a lot more if it wasn't coming from a B1G school.... is that wrong of me?

 

[Rural]

Damn, you guys are fast.

 

[RustShack]

Didn’t they already debunk the connection between Covid and myocarditis?

 

[3GenClone]

This is interesting.

The quote is (emphasis my own):
“When we looked at our COVID-positive athletes, whether they were symptomatic or not, 30 to roughly 35 percent of their heart muscles (are) inflamed,” Sebastianelli said. “And we really just don’t know what to do with it right now. It’s still very early in the infection. Some of that has led to the Pac-12 and the Big Ten’s decision to sort of put a hiatus on what’s happening.”

So is it "our" as in Penn State, or Big 10 as a whole? My immediate question is how does the Penn State doctor have access to health reports from athletes at other Big 10 universities? If this is a collaborative finding, why aren't other universities coming forward with similar results?

 

[clonedude]

The quote is (emphasis my own):
“When we looked at our COVID-positive athletes, whether they were symptomatic or not, 30 to roughly 35 percent of their heart muscles (are) inflamed,” Sebastianelli said. “And we really just don’t know what to do with it right now. It’s still very early in the infection. Some of that has led to the Pac-12 and the Big Ten’s decision to sort of put a hiatus on what’s happening.”

So is it "our" as in Penn State, or Big 10 as a whole? My immediate question is how does the Penn State doctor have access to health reports from athletes at other Big 10 universities? If this is a collaborative finding, why aren't other universities coming forward with similar results?

This is why we should consider ourselves lucky to be even playing and quit b****ing about there being no fans allowed. This could all be taken away from us any day now.

 

[FOREVERTRUE]

Didn’t they already debunk the connection between Covid and myocarditis?

I haven't seen it yet if there is, but myocarditis is possible with any viral infection so I don't see how anyone can completely disprove it, but the fear is it is more prevalent with covid.

 

[cycloneG]

This is a really good article.

Exercise and COVID-19 Can Be a Dangerous Combination, New Evidence Shows

Trying to “work through it” can make it much worse. Here’s what you need to know.

www.runnersworld.com

 

[Trice]

If this study ends up being accurate.... it could pull the plug on all football this fall.

I have no idea what to believe anymore. I would actually trust this study a lot more if it wasn't coming from a B1G school.... is that wrong of me?

My opinion? Nothing is pulling the plug at this late date.

But as to what people can believe..."believe" everything from people acting in good faith, but remain skeptical of it. Not because you're being duped (though obviously there are some scam artists) but because studies are being rushed out with great urgency, absent some of the rigorous peer review they might otherwise get. There will be claims that don't pan out or can't be replicated. There's a ton we don't know and won't be obvious for awhile.

For this reason, I'm skeptical of this Mayo doctor that magically appeared on the day three conferences needed a medical green light to justify continuing to play. I'm not questioning his expertise, but it's a stretch for me to put all my eggs in this one guy's basket when the rest of the world is so uncertain.

And even if he turns out to be 100% correct, I'm not sure how anyone can be certain at this point that myocarditis is the sole long-term threat for athletes with Covid.

 

[ISUTex]

Well, I hope you read the article I attached.
Our positivity is high because we are not testing enough. At our rates, it just means we do not know how high our real problem is. If ISU is finding 28%, that means they have a whole bunch of asymptomatic potential spreaders wandering around. Low positivity rates mean you are testing enough to know there is not a lot of virus floating around in your area and you have much lower risk.

Not responding to any particular person on here. I remember saying that Covid would spread like wildfire once college students came back. A lot of posters on here thought I was crazy. Playing football isn't the problem. Wouldn't freak out though. Better for it to spread through the young healthy crowd. They'll be fine. If you're an old sunscreen eater, just stay in your closet until it's safe to come out.