When should boys start school?

im a september birthday and so i was one of the older ones for my grade. i thought it was sweet being 18 basically my whole senior year.

also turning 21 at the start of my junior year of college during football was cherry on top.
16 fir HS and 21 for college are definitely the ages that will split groups.
 
I wasn’t aware of when kids in my class had birthdays, let alone generalize their social acceptance by their relative age.
If I had been a year less physically developed the bullying would have been really bad. One of my friends was the same birth month but also got skipped ahead in class because he was intelligent. He was brutally harassed. Take it or leave idgaf.
 
Studies show school start times should generally be moved back to allow for more sleep and other health reasons. We start the day at 8:20 which is probably fine, but I think most of my students are fully awake by 9am.

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Back at ISU I became good friends with a group of guys from NW Iowa who were in my same graduating class but were 1 year older than me; that was the first time I realized how big of an advantage that would have been during the HS football days with an additional year of maturity/muscle.
 
I will say I do remember kids who were held back in K and first, and they were forever tagged as dumb no matter how well they did. Because, who fails K? That was what kids always said.

Kids are nasty, if there are weaknesses, they will attack. I don’t care how nice your kid is, they will be on one side of the herd.
 
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Kids are adaptable little buggers. Just make a decision that’s best for your family and don’t sweat it. Reading with your kids and supporting their academics are probably far more important whether you go forward or hold back.
 
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Our daughters birthday is tomorrow so she misses the cutoff by a week. As irritating as it may be that she is ready for more it will be good in the long run.
My middle child came a full week early on Sept. 18th, I was sweating it out to the 15th. Not that it made much difference would have held him back anyway. Other two are October.

It used to be that soccer cutoff was same as school but now it's by calendar year. Most sports are by grade, so it really doesn't make much difference athletically anymore if your kid is born in the summer and you keep them back. Really irritates me with the new soccer rule (which I'm sure was pushed by USA soccer) - they are splitting up kids in the same grade now with the stupid change. My oldest is 5 in Kindergarten and in U8 and I coach 3 of his classmates that have birthdays after Dec. 31st on my younger son's team in U6.
 
My middle child came a full week early on Sept. 18th, I was sweating it out to the 15th. Not that it made much difference would have held him back anyway. Other two are October.

It used to be that soccer cutoff was same as school but now it's by calendar year. Most sports are by grade, so it really doesn't make much difference athletically anymore if your kid is born in the summer and you keep them back. Really irritates me with the new soccer rule (which I'm sure was pushed by USA soccer) - they are splitting up kids in the same grade now with the stupid change. My oldest is 5 in Kindergarten and in U8 and I coach 3 of his classmates that have birthdays after Dec. 31st on my younger son's team in U6.
It’s that way for a lot of sports. The kids who were red-shirted for Kindergarten in my son’s class couldn’t play little league this year while the rest of the kids did.
 
It’s that way for a lot of sports. The kids who were red-shirted for Kindergarten in my son’s class couldn’t play little league this year while the rest of the kids did.
Is it by grade then or by calendar year?

I prefer by grade, so it makes sense to not allow them to if they are repeating PS or K. What doesn't make sense to me is a kid born Dec. 31st 2017 and another Jan. 1st 2018 being in different age groups. Keep the kids with their grade, that is who they will be playing with once they hit middle school/high school.
 
It’s that way for a lot of sports. The kids who were red-shirted for Kindergarten in my son’s class couldn’t play little league this year while the rest of the kids did.
Wrestling goes by year for USA and school year for AAU. So if you are born in October, AAU is good but USA sucks. If you are more than a year older for either, you have to go up a grouping.
 
I just don’t see the down side of waiting. If you wait and they are ahead and you decide to accelerate them academically that is fine. If they aren’t ready and they fall behind, it’s tough to catch up if you pushed them early.

In the experiences of when I went to school and my kids having and last still going. Very few times have a I seen a kid who is born august or later be academically, socially, and emotionally (all three together) similar to their class. Usually at least one behind, not all, but more often than not in my experiences.

Extra yr of childcare cost is one thing. For us that's somewhere north of 15k. For many families it may not be an option financially.
 
Is it by grade then or by calendar year?

I prefer by grade, so it makes sense to not allow them to if they are repeating PS or K. What doesn't make sense to me is a kid born Dec. 31st 2017 and another Jan. 1st 2018 being in different age groups. Keep the kids with their grade, that is who they will be playing with once they hit middle school/high school.
Have you met travel ball parents?
 
Is it by grade then or by calendar year?

I prefer by grade, so it makes sense to not allow them to if they are repeating PS or K. What doesn't make sense to me is a kid born Dec. 31st 2017 and another Jan. 1st 2018 being in different age groups. Keep the kids with their grade, that is who they will be playing with once they hit middle school/high school.
LL baseball is aug 31 i think.

Our soccer club is pretty lenient on letting kids play up if the parents ask. A bit easier to keep same grade kids together.
 
Extra yr of childcare cost is one thing. For us that's somewhere north of 15k. For many families it may not be an option financially.
When my wife brought that situation up as a positive for sending our oldest boy early (I will say we are fortunate to be able to afford it), I just said that I wasn't willing to let money be the determining factor in that major of a decision for our kids, even if I had to work extra to cover it.

With the wife being a teacher, she didn't want to anyhow. I think she was more testing me to see what I thought. We actually had set things up with that thought in mind that our first (August birthday) would wait until he was turning six right away in K. We sent him to a pre-school in another town when he was 4, so he would not repeat the same preschool twice. Magically the local school started a K-prep program and selected 6 older preschool kids to be in it and it worked out perfectly for us. Half days each day.

So when our youngest was born in late April (which I had said I hoped we didnt have April or May kids), we stayed with the same course as him.

In the long run, we also got lucky because our two sons classes turned out much better than the ones before each of them. Both would have been fine academically going early, now looking back at it, but I think emotionally and socially wise, I 100% believe it was the correct decisions.
 
To me May through August birthday's can be a tossup. I have a June Birthday and was one of the youngest in my class outside of a couple July and 1 September I'm aware of. The oldest I remember was July on the old side. I was fine but can definitely see cases on both sides where parents would have bored kids and parents who have kids who need an extra year of prep. If it's strictly sports related I think that's ridiculous considering the number of kids who truly can get a decent scholarship let alone make a living off athletics.