What's growing? The garden thread.

cowgirl836

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I have a question for those that can their own produce: Do you reuse the lids? Not many years ago they were considerably less expensive and not much thought was given to tossing the used lids and purchasing new the following year. I know the universities and manufacturers suggest we follow this mindset but for probably 10 years I've refused to follow their instructions and after careful inspection of the lids if they pass my eye test they get reused, and many have been reused up to 3-4 times with no adverse effects. If the rubber is in good shape and and the enamel show no flaws they are good to go in my book. My wife generally pops them off the jar with a can opener and even the bent edges on the outer side of the metal can be reformed by rolling them on the countertop. They now offer reusable lids but the price limits me from investing (with my labor) an end product that is available on the shelf for less. Besides controlling what goes into the jar my reason for canning has been for economics. Even with using new lids occasionally a jar doesn't seal properly and gets regulated to the fridge for immediate use so what am I missing?

I would probably reuse because I'm cheap and play fast and loose like that. My husband is an engineer and handles all the actual canning. And he does not reuse.
 

cowgirl836

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Not apples to apples: Your husband is an engineer and I farmed in the 80's, of course he'd use new. :D:D

There's a reason I grow and prep but turn it over to him for canning. Turns out anal-retentiveness is a good thing for preventing botulism.
 
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There's a reason I grow and prep but turn it over to him for canning. Turns out anal-retentiveness is a good thing for preventing botulism.

I'm super anal about food safety stuff so I never reuse lids for canning. My wife would, but I won't. It's not worth it to me at 20 cents a lid.

I do keep a stash for stuff not going through the canning process though. Most of the veggies are given to us by family and neighbors, I make something out of it and end up giving it back out minus our cut. It's getting eaten by the time it would go bad.

I mainly only can tomato juice, chili base and spaghetti sauce. I do a ton of salsa that doesn't last very long. The pickles have gone fast this year too. I'm already through 3 batches of them.
 

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An animal of some sort, pretty sure its a rabbit, has made my over grown garden its home. Got through the fence somehow. Scared the **** out of me when I was grabbing some tomatoes.
 

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Update:
Potatoes are all dug (all Yukon Golds). They were planted at three different planting dates and as expected the earliest planted were the most prolific. The tomatoes (all Amish Paste) are really producing now. With proper mulching and fungal spraying I managed the blight beyond expectations considering all the earlier rain. They are a later variety and I envy those that get earlier tomatoes but to me the taste and adaptability of use from these out ways planting others, plus I save my own seed so I don't risk cross pollination by supplementing with different varieties.. My first plantings of beets (Detroit Dark Red?) and carrots (Scarlet Nante) was poor and those all got consumed as they matured. I pickled some beets from the second planting and was planning on canning the stragglers but the recipe for the pickled turned out exceptional so the rest will follow that same route. The remaining carrots will be canned--they had a nice sweet flavor to them. I don't tend to experiment with new varieties in my garden when I'm satisfied with the tested and true. My intention for today is to plant my fall spinach crop. With everything else going on this time of year I suggest you find time to be diligent with your weed control even as the produce is nearing it's end. Why raise a crop of weed seeds to battle next year?
 
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I made some hand cut French fries and never again. Waaaay too time consuming for how relatively cheap they are at the grocery store. I spent like 4 hours peeling, cutting, blanching and attempting to separate and freeze them. Just a complete PITA. I thought it might be easier than hashbrowns.

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I made some hand cut French fries and never again. Waaaay too time consuming for how relatively cheap they are at the grocery store. I spent like 4 hours peeling, cutting, blanching and attempting to separate and freeze them. Just a complete PITA. I thought it might be easier than hashbrowns.

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yep, thats why i don't piss with carrots, onions or potatoes. they are too cheap at the store
 

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We dug up the last of our potatoes, about 40 hills,, and the last of the carrots yesterday and tilled it up.
 

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I battled raccoons in my tomato’s all season. Sprayed retail chemical that is said to stop critters, didn’t work. Put up knee high chicken wire fence, didn’t work. Put up electric fence with two wires, one barely off the ground and other about 10” higher, didn’t work. Put up sheets of galvanized sheets as a tight fence and it did a pretty good job but was not 100% successful. The coons got into about 20% of the ripe tomato’s. They wouldn’t climb but just what they could reach off the ground. I use cages that are about 5’ high. Anyone have any suggestions?
 

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I battled raccoons in my tomato’s all season. Sprayed retail chemical that is said to stop critters, didn’t work. Put up knee high chicken wire fence, didn’t work. Put up electric fence with two wires, one barely off the ground and other about 10” higher, didn’t work. Put up sheets of galvanized sheets as a tight fence and it did a pretty good job but was not 100% successful. The coons got into about 20% of the ripe tomato’s. They wouldn’t climb but just what they could reach off the ground. I use cages that are about 5’ high. Anyone have any suggestions?
Buy from the farmers market.
 
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I battled raccoons in my tomato’s all season. Sprayed retail chemical that is said to stop critters, didn’t work. Put up knee high chicken wire fence, didn’t work. Put up electric fence with two wires, one barely off the ground and other about 10” higher, didn’t work. Put up sheets of galvanized sheets as a tight fence and it did a pretty good job but was not 100% successful. The coons got into about 20% of the ripe tomato’s. They wouldn’t climb but just what they could reach off the ground. I use cages that are about 5’ high. Anyone have any suggestions?
Seems like you need a more permanent solution..
 
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Coons are relatively easy to live trap. Once you've caught them it's your discretion as to their fate. Marshmallows make excellent bait. A professional pest management employee confided in me with a method that is near 100% effective but is completely off-label with the ingredients used and also lethal to nontargets. Don't know your situation and I wouldn't be comfortable sharing it knowing you may have kids or pets. He said that he's used it to eradicate coons from hay storage areas with complete success.
 

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Coons are relatively easy to live trap. Once you've caught them it's your discretion as to their fate. Marshmallows make excellent bait. A professional pest management employee confided in me with a method that is near 100% effective but is completely off-label with the ingredients used and also lethal to nontargets. Don't know your situation and I wouldn't be comfortable sharing it knowing you may have kids or pets. He said that he's used it to eradicate coons from hay storage areas with complete success.
Yes, I know the formula of common ingredients that you mention. Kids or pets are not anywhere close to our location and it wouldn’t be a problem. Even thou the critter problem persisted since July, I didn’t 100 % identify the thieves until the last few days. Suspected deer, squirrels & coons until recently. The electric fence not being effective threw me off.
 

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I caught five squirrels and four chimpmunks over the last week. I repurposed them across town to keep the families togther.
 

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Is there a reason one of my daffodils has not only stayed green all summer but is now sprouting new leaves?
 

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Yes, I know the formula of common ingredients that you mention. Kids or pets are not anywhere close to our location and it wouldn’t be a problem. Even thou the critter problem persisted since July, I didn’t 100 % identify the thieves until the last few days. Suspected deer, squirrels & coons until recently. The electric fence not being effective threw me off.
I plan to be eating rabbit this winter, decimated all our beans peas and carrots.
 
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