What is with the Refs?

[MuskMisk]

I am not complaining on this being called or not called. These are human beings it happens.

I just want to know, why there is very little consistency. Consistency between games or even in game. Watch the TT game, I see calls that are against ISU, but not TT for doing the same things. It is somewhat frustrating as a fan when things are so unbalanced.

It has happened in other games to the favor of ISU.

The only thing I ask, is please be consistent. Again, human beings that will miss things. Just please... be consistent with the calls.

 

[rosshm16]

That one guy in the NBA went to prison for gambling on the games.

I'm sure he was the only one.

 

[CyState85]

I shake my head when I see Brooks Wells doing a game. His judgement should be questioned. Google it…

 

[andybernard]

I really struggle to watch ISU road games for this reason. CBB officiating absolutely favors the home team. There are calls against us in road games that are infuriating, but also some head scratches that go our way in Hilton.

 

[93CloneMoves]

A great example today was late. Gilbert gets called on a strip on Williams, it was actually a clean strip. I looked like it could be a foul but it wasn’t. I understand the call being made. Fast forward to Gilbert driving in that final stretch and Hawkins bodies him, comes across the arms and the ball goes out of bounds with no call. It should have been foul #5 on Hawkins and FTs. Instead we are inbounding. There were many other samples. What’s frustrating is we don’t get the home cooking in Hilton, many of the same types of examples.

 

[rosshm16]

I honestly don't see us getting anywhere near the tilted whistle that most other Big 12 teams get at home, but perhaps I'm blinded by my homer glasses.

 

[VeloClone]

I honestly don't see us getting anywhere near the tilted whistle that most other Big 12 teams get at home, but perhaps I'm blinded by my homer glasses.

I disagree. ISU generally gets a pretty good home whistle - the fans in Hilton make sure of it.

I was getting pretty frustrated at some points in the game today but as I said to Mrs. Velo and my daughter, I guess that is life on the road in the Big 12.

Let's just hope that it continues to hold on Wednesday and KU doesn't get their home whistle even while on the road.

 

[FerShizzle]

It’s like everyone forgets what college basketball is every year during the off season. College basketball has almost always had a heavy home bias in officiating.

It has become a more difficult sport to officiate in recent decades, because team rosters and play styles are drastically different from team to team.

Consider a team like Iowa playing a team like Houston. That game is going to look very different in Houston than in Iowa City with the whistle favoring the home team in both. As long as that is consistent I don’t really mind a ****** whistle on the road.

Now a team like KU can **** off with their home whistle on the road, and their super home whistle at home.

 

[throwittoblythe]

One thing I’ve noticed that drives me nuts in WBB and MBB is the “someone fell down so there must be a foul” call.

Happened in the game today when Lipsey fell down and the TT player fell on him.

Happened in the women’s game against Utah where two players jumped for the ball and ran into each other hard.

Just because someone falls down or there is a collision does not automatically mean there was a foul committed.

 

[enisthemenace]

A great example today was late. Gilbert gets called on a strip on Williams, it was actually a clean strip. I looked like it could be a foul but it wasn’t. I understand the call being made. Fast forward to Gilbert driving in that final stretch and Hawkins bodies him, comes across the arms and the ball goes out of bounds with no call. It should have been foul #5 on Hawkins and FTs. Instead we are inbounding. There were many other samples. What’s frustrating is we don’t get the home cooking in Hilton, many of the same types of examples.

Sounds like you’re referring to the play where Heise was called for his 5th foul. Gilbert’s move was clean. Heise raked across the arm from behind.

 

[Walden4Prez]

Overall I don’t think the refs have been any better or worse than any other year this year.

 

[VeloClone]

One thing I’ve noticed that drives me nuts in WBB and MBB is the “someone fell down so there must be a foul” call.

Happened in the game today when Lipsey fell down and the TT player fell on him.

Happened in the women’s game against Utah where two players jumped for the ball and ran into each other hard.

Just because someone falls down or there is a collision does not automatically mean there was a foul committed.

Either Lipsey was fouled and that is why he fell down or he fouled the player who tripped and fell on him because lying on the floor is not a legal guarding position. Kind of like how Flopper Marcus Smart tried to flop his way into a foul on Kane that one time and as soon as he went down Kane drove into him since lying on the floor is not a legal guarding position.

 

[simply1]

A great example today was late. Gilbert gets called on a strip on Williams, it was actually a clean strip. I looked like it could be a foul but it wasn’t. I understand the call being made. Fast forward to Gilbert driving in that final stretch and Hawkins bodies him, comes across the arms and the ball goes out of bounds with no call. It should have been foul #5 on Hawkins and FTs. Instead we are inbounding. There were many other samples. What’s frustrating is we don’t get the home cooking in Hilton, many of the same types of examples.

Heise got that foul I believe.

 

[VeloClone]

Overall I don’t think the refs have been any better or worse than any other year this year.

It seems like people keep saying that officiating is worse than it has ever been in every sport. I don't think that is necessarily the case.

 

[enisthemenace]

Either Lipsey was fouled and that is why he fell down or he fouled the player who tripped and fell on him because lying on the floor is not a legal guarding position. Kind of like how Flopper Marcus Smart tried to flop his way into a foul on Kane that one time and as soon as he went down Kane drove into him since lying on the floor is not a legal guarding position.

Yeah. Lipsey slipped. They were more likely reviewing that play to see if they thought he flopped.

 

[enisthemenace]

Heise got that foul I believe.

So…why are you disagreeing with my post?

 

[simply1]

So…why are you disagreeing with my post?

Agree is very close on my phone!

 

[enisthemenace]

Agree is very close on my phone!

Gotcha

 

[cyclonespiker33]

Yeah. Lipsey slipped. They were more likely reviewing that play to see if they thought he flopped.

Lipsey was shoved, that's why he fell.

 

[enisthemenace]

Lipsey was shoved, that's why he fell.

Mmmmm…”No, no, he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he rubbed you. And rubbin', son, is racin”
- Harry Hogge

I love Tamin, but he’s 6’1 200#. There was not enough contact on that play to put him down. Sorry.