What’s wrong with the offense?

cyatheart

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Outside of the 3rd down QB draw to set up a 50 yarder, I didn't think the playcalling was all that bad.

Execution was horrendous. How many times did we get an ineligible downfield to negate a nice 15 yard gain? That's not a playcalling issue, that's an execution issue.

Mouser didn't fumble in the redzone.

Mouser didn't false start at the 1 yard line (and then get stonewalled on running plays that we have had success with in the past).

My only criticisms of the playcalling were the 3rd down QB draw (makes zero sense to "set up" a 50 yard field goal into the wind) and I feel like they don't really go with the "hot hand" with running backs; seems like once a guy makes a good play, they pull him out.

We gained 450 yards despite our o-line having a pretty bad game. Drops, turnovers, and penalties killed us. Mouser didn't call for those things to happen.
I think, and it’s just a hunch without watching it again, , a serious look needs to taken at the center position. Lot of poor snaps, bone headed plays and missed blocks. Not sure what the other options are there, but it was a problem all day.
 

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Rocco is not doing a good job getting the ball out on time. A lot of scrambling around and taking sacks. A couple of times he threw it away or scrambled when he had guys wide open. Not sure what he is looking at out there.
Scrambling when guys are open and throwing it at times when he could easily run for it.

I think the pressure is getting to him. And others on the team as well. UCF showed it before today. Now it’s a matter of whether or not the team uses this as a wake up call, or we limp through the rest of the season.

At the end of the day we could all prob stand to take a step back, and look how upset we are going into November at 7-1. Nothing like this has ever happened in my lifetime.
 

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Outside of the 3rd down QB draw to set up a 50 yarder, I didn't think the playcalling was all that bad.

Execution was horrendous. How many times did we get an ineligible downfield to negate a nice 15 yard gain? That's not a playcalling issue, that's an execution issue.

Mouser didn't fumble in the redzone.

Mouser didn't false start at the 1 yard line (and then get stonewalled on running plays that we have had success with in the past).

My only criticisms of the playcalling were the 3rd down QB draw (makes zero sense to "set up" a 50 yard field goal into the wind) and I feel like they don't really go with the "hot hand" with running backs; seems like once a guy makes a good play, they pull him out.

We gained 450 yards despite our o-line having a pretty bad game. Drops, turnovers, and penalties killed us. Mouser didn't call for those things to happen.

I would add the sequence that went Ngoyi/3 TE for 1 and 2 down then a play that didn’t do anything wasn’t great either, but it didn’t end up hurting anything in the long run other than going 3 and out.
 

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Just watching SMUs offense, my goodness they look great, play calling and execution are top notch.
 

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Been a lot of comments about the offensive play calling. Three critical play calls that concerned me. 1. 4th and 2 and we try a difficult pass in the flat instead going stacked I or qb sneak or doing something with options. 2. After the false start on the goal line. We have 3rd and goal with about 7 to go. A QB keeper to the outside with minimal blocking? 3. Two point conversion...what was that mess of a call? All three critical moments and those hurt.
This is spot on. The goal line play calling was head scratching. They ran the same roll out play call with one option when we had to settle for 3 as the 2 point conversion. I’ve rarely seen those plays work. If that one option isn’t there you have nowhere else to go with the ball
 

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They still weren’t good at all. There were holes everywhere and we refused to take what Tech gave us.
You clearly didn't watch any of Tech's previous games. This was lock down in comparison. Go watch what TCU did to Tech's backup CB last week. Gave up 86 yard & 76 yard TD passes over the top. None of that happened today because it wasn't there vs. Tech's starters.
 

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You clearly didn't watch any of Tech's previous games. This was lock down in comparison. Go watch what TCU did to Tech's backup CB last week. Gave up 86 yard & 76 yard TD passes over the top. None of that happened today because it wasn't there vs. Tech's starters.
I’ve watched all of Tech’s games my friend. Yes they were much better but they were only “good” because our offensive scheme tonight never took what your defense gave us. The short middle was wide open all night long. Congrats on the win, but we beat ourselves. That’s part of the game though.
 
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Rocco is in a similar spot as Brock right now imo. Lack of rhythm with his receivers. Some untimely drops.

And he seems to be getting ping ponged between not being able to find a man in space when they drop back in coverage, staring down receivers, and getting a bit rattled by pressure.

I’m not going to pretend to know the play calls to right the ship, but we’ve been out of rhythm past two games.

To me it seems like the adjustment to the adjustment just isn’t there yet. There’s coordinators on the other side scouting and trying to scheme against our talent and tendencies.

^ this led to a breakaway touchdown for Carson Brown as they bracketed and cheated on Higgins.

We’re missing Brahmer and need a consistent third threat and/or solid consistent run game. If we just have two great wideouts and a solid qb I fear we’re easier to scheme against than we’d like to believe.
 

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I’ve watched all of Tech’s games my friend. Yes they were much better but they were only “good” because our offensive scheme tonight never took what your defense gave us. The short middle was wide open all night long. Congrats on the win, but we beat ourselves. That’s part of the game though.
If you've watched all of Tech's games then you would admit that the majority of Tech's explosive plays given up were given up by the backup CB Macho Stevenson, who didn't see the field today because Horn and Lux were finally both available and opponents couldn't just pick on the backup.

Everyone kind of just laughs it off and claims Tech sucks, but never looks into it and realizes that they're missing 3 starters on the DL, and injuries all throughout the secondary most of the season. They're not the worst unit in the conference when healthy. Yes, I realize ISU is banged up at LB and injuries are part of the game, but when the starters come back healthy, it's worth pointing out the stats may not necessarily equal the team you're seeing the field when factoring in injuries.

Other teams get a chance to play well, Tech's offense didn't struggle because they beat themselves with poor scheme, they struggled because ISU played exceptional defense.
 

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We failed to exploit Tech's biggest weakness in their pass defense and instead pretended to be a power rushing offense. We don't run the ball well enough for that to be a good strategy. 22 points against that defense is unacceptable.
 

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I just saw we ran the ball 38 times against the worst pass defense in the Big 12 if not all of CFB. That is coaching malpractice especially considering we can’t run the football.
 
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Feels like the lack of talent/development with OL is still the biggest issue. Campbell/Mouser resorted to 3 te offense like several years ago to try to get minimal blocking. Unfortunately, we dont have Kolar, Allen and Rus back there. Seems like playcalling (very poor) was simply a continuation of ISU chasing that problem.
 
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