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[acoustimac]

Crazy night in the conference.

Three Thoughts on Wednesday's Big 12 Women's Basketball Games

There were three Big 12 women’s basketball matchups across the conference on Wednesday. Here are three thoughts on those games. OU Stays in Title Race The No. 15 Oklahoma Sooners (21-4, 11-3 in Big 12) cruised past Texas Tech (16-10, 4-9), 84-57. OU was up 26-13 at the end of the first quarter...

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[StClone]

Home cooking extravaganza in Connecticut helps UCONN survive Creighton, 62-60.

Creighton could have tied but with seconds left missed two free throws.

 

[StClone]

Crazy night in the conference.

Three Thoughts on Wednesday's Big 12 Women's Basketball Games

There were three Big 12 women’s basketball matchups across the conference on Wednesday. Here are three thoughts on those games. OU Stays in Title Race The No. 15 Oklahoma Sooners (21-4, 11-3 in Big 12) cruised past Texas Tech (16-10, 4-9), 84-57. OU was up 26-13 at the end of the first quarter...

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Team	Big 12 Record	Pct.	Home	Away	Streak	Overall Record	Pct.	Home	Away	Neutral	Streak
Texas	11-3	.786	7-0	4-3	L1	20-7	.741	13-1	5-4	2-2	L1
Oklahoma	11-3	.786	6-1	5-2	W5	21-4	.840	12-1	7-3	2-0	W5
Iowa State	8-5	.615	6-1	2-4	W1	16-7	.696	11-1	3-5	2-1	W1
Oklahoma State	8-5	.615	6-1	2-4	W4	18-7	.720	13-2	3-4	2-1	W4
West Virginia	7-6	.538	5-2	2-4	W2	16-8	.667	11-2	2-5	3-1	W2
Baylor	7-6	.538	3-3	4-3	L3	16-9	.640	10-4	4-3	2-2	L3
Kansas	6-7	.462	4-2	2-5	L1	16-8	.667	11-2	4-6	1-0	L1
Texas Tech	4-9	.308	2-4	2-5	L3	16-10	.615	11-5	3-5	2-0	L3
Kansas State	4-9	.308	4-3	0-6	W1	15-11	.577	12-3	0-6	3-2	W1
TCU	0-13	.000	0-6	0-7	L13	6-18	.250	6-9	0-9	0-0	L13

 

[acoustimac]

Team	Big 12 Record	Pct.	Home	Away	Streak	Overall Record	Pct.	Home	Away	Neutral	Streak
Texas	11-3	.786	7-0	4-3	L1	20-7	.741	13-1	5-4	2-2	L1
Oklahoma	11-3	.786	6-1	5-2	W5	21-4	.840	12-1	7-3	2-0	W5
Iowa State	8-5	.615	6-1	2-4	W1	16-7	.696	11-1	3-5	2-1	W1
Oklahoma State	8-5	.615	6-1	2-4	W4	18-7	.720	13-2	3-4	2-1	W4
West Virginia	7-6	.538	5-2	2-4	W2	16-8	.667	11-2	2-5	3-1	W2
Baylor	7-6	.538	3-3	4-3	L3	16-9	.640	10-4	4-3	2-2	L3
Kansas	6-7	.462	4-2	2-5	L1	16-8	.667	11-2	4-6	1-0	L1
Texas Tech	4-9	.308	2-4	2-5	L3	16-10	.615	11-5	3-5	2-0	L3
Kansas State	4-9	.308	4-3	0-6	W1	15-11	.577	12-3	0-6	3-2	W1
TCU	0-13	.000	0-6	0-7	L13	6-18	.250	6-9	0-9	0-0	L13

So….you’re saying there's a chance?

 

[WartburgClone]

Crazy night in the conference.

Three Thoughts on Wednesday's Big 12 Women's Basketball Games

There were three Big 12 women’s basketball matchups across the conference on Wednesday. Here are three thoughts on those games. OU Stays in Title Race The No. 15 Oklahoma Sooners (21-4, 11-3 in Big 12) cruised past Texas Tech (16-10, 4-9), 84-57. OU was up 26-13 at the end of the first quarter...

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

Now I feel less terrible about losing in Manhattan and more terrible about losing to Baylor.

 

[kcdc4isu]

I learned something a couple of days ago. College (men and women) ONLY have 5 second closely guarded while holding the ball. NFHS still has while holding and dribbling. Thus in high school if closely guarded you can catch the ball, hold for 4 seconds, dribble for 4 seconds and hold for 4 seconds. In college, if you are dribbling, there is no count. It was explained, that is due to the shot clock. It was felt there is no need to have the closely guarded while dribbling, but kept the holding portion for when teams trap and contain a player with the ball and they are having difficulty getting a pass off.

That makes sense to me. If high schools ever all go to shot clock (which I have liked in Iowa so far), I would like to see that change for that level too.

This may be how they are supposed to call it but watch games and the way it is called is different per official. I still go back to we have a shot clock so there is no need for the 5 second rule. Much like 3 seconds in the lane that is again not a consistent call.

 

[theshadow]

Kansas got this look with :02 left to send their game at WVU into OT. She missed.

 

[stormchaser2014]

Refs at Indiana having issues with the crowd noise being picked up by the sensor on their whistles stopping the clock again.

 

[theshadow]

Competing meltdowns in Lubbock.

Tech up 1 in the final minute, and Gerlich straight tackles an OSU player who had grabbed a rebound. Intentional foul (2 shots and ball).

OSU only makes one, to tie. Ensuing possession, 27 seconds of dribble and a drive that results in no shot, and a shot clock violation.

Tech then misses a 15-footer at buzzer.

Off to overtime.

 

[theshadow]

More panicky hoops.

OSU up 8 halfway through OT, didn't score again. Tech ties it up 67-67.

OSU gets a steal with :05 left and chucks it up immediately from half court instead of driving in for a much higher percentage shot.

OT #2.

 

[NWICY]

So who is leading in the Maddyn Greenway sweepstakes up ther in Mn?
Iowa?

 

[theshadow]

1 pass and 1 dribble too many for OSU with the clock running down. Time expires before the layup.

76-76, heading to OT3.

 

[theshadow]

OSU wins the battle of attrition, 92-80 in 3 OT.

 

[WartburgClone]

K-State with a horrifying 75-62 loss to TCU.

 

[acoustimac]

Some additional perspective…from ESPN.

UCF tied for first in the American Athletic Conference last season with South Florida, and Houston was third.

BYU is the most successful women's program joining the Big 12. The Cougars have made 14 NCAA tournament appearances and advanced to the Sweet 16 twice (2002 and 2014). This past season, as a No. 11 seed, they upset No. 6 seed Rutgers in the first round before falling to eventual NCAA runner-up Arizona, a No. 3 seed. Nine of the Cougars' NCAA tournament appearances have come under current coach Jeff Judkins, who has had only one losing season since taking over in 2001-02.

 

[undersized_post]

Some additional perspective…from ESPN.

UCF tied for first in the American Athletic Conference last season with South Florida, and Houston was third.

BYU is the most successful women's program joining the Big 12. The Cougars have made 14 NCAA tournament appearances and advanced to the Sweet 16 twice (2002 and 2014). This past season, as a No. 11 seed, they upset No. 6 seed Rutgers in the first round before falling to eventual NCAA runner-up Arizona, a No. 3 seed. Nine of the Cougars' NCAA tournament appearances have come under current coach Jeff Judkins, who has had only one losing season since taking over in 2001-02.

Whatever source you're quoting here is at least a year old. BYU's tourney upset of Rutgers happened in 2021, and that coach is retired now. BYU lost all of its talent to the portal or graduation last season. UCF also had a coaching change and lost most of their talent as well. So last season isn't at all representative of the quality of team that will be joining the B12 next year. Maybe the new coaches just need time to build programs. Time will tell.

 

[BoxsterCy]

K-State with a horrifying 75-62 loss to TCU.

KSU isn't that good. Couple home wins for show and tell but they are 0-7 on the road.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Whatever source you're quoting here is at least a year old. BYU's tourney upset of Rutgers happened in 2021, and that coach is retired now. BYU lost all of its talent to the portal or graduation last season. UCF also had a coaching change and lost most of their talent as well. So last season isn't at all representative of the quality of team that will be joining the B12 next year. Maybe the new coaches just need time to build programs. Time will tell.

^This. The newcomers suck in WBB and will be bottom of the league starting out. The "new" league will be fine in MBB and okay in football but there's no way to spin WBB as anything but weaker in a league that was already "down".

Current NET for these teams.
Houston 75
BYU 106
UFC 160
Cinci 184

By NET they would be 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th in the Big 12 with only TCU being worse. It's possible that being in a better league will help their recruiting but that's going to be years to see if it comes to fruition.

 

[theshadow]

Sunday's Big 12 games:

Oklahoma 86, Kansas 80
Only 4 points scored in the last 3:00 of the game -- all OU FT

Texas 74, West Virginia 48
UT started the game with a 17-2 run and didn't look back

 

[theshadow]

BIG 12 STANDINGS/SCHEDULE

TEAM	W-L	MIDWEEK (all Wed.)	WEEKEND
Texas	12-3	open	at OU
Oklahoma	12-3	open	vs UT
Iowa State	9-5	at OSU	vs TCU
Oklahoma State	9-5	vs ISU	at KU (Sun.)
West Virginia	7-7	at TTU	vs KSU
Baylor	7-7	at TCU	vs TTU
Kansas	6-8	at KSU	vs OSU (Sun.)
Texas Tech	4-10	vs WVU	at BU
Kansas State	4-10	vs KU	at WVU
TCU	1-13	vs BU	at ISU