***WBB: 2025 Recruiting Thread***

ClonesMagic1

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I guess I did a poor job of communicating. In my mind, I was dismissing the top five PF's from consideration in my post, as they wouldn't be interested in ISU, are already headed elsewhere or would be too expensive. In my thought process, a one-year rental from a mid-major is the best we can do. This isn't the first time I've brought up Ziegler, as I've read articles suggesting she'd be a strong role player on a P5 squad, plus there's the Danish connection. If we contacted Raviv & Rose from other mid-majors, who were initially ranked higher up the portal list, why would Ziegler be out of reach.

Lastly, there are many other younger PF's in the transfer portal, some of them highly ranked when initially recruited, and I specifically asked, "any rumors of CBF contacting any of the plentiful PF's out there?"

I see PF as the missing piece, but what do I know? CBF might not see it as a need at all. I'm just trying to determine if we're actively pursuing a "big" or standing pat.
Ziegler has visited Louisville and Oregon both paying top $$ for a forward/post.
 
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Humbly disagree. She's a gamer.
I love Arianna Jackson and would love to see her start at the #2, with Hare coming off the bench for instant offense. I don't believe we can compete for a conference title with both Jackson and Hare starting. We need length, athleticism and rebounding to free Addy and cover for Audi's limitations.
Ziegler has visited Louisville and Oregon both paying top $$ for a forward/post.
Thank you for the info - do you have a premium membership at a different site or are you just great at web searches? I spent fifteen minutes this afternoon trying t find ANY info on visits by Ziegler and Kelsey Joens, coming up empty!

I expected Ziegler was a long shot - she's been "alpha" at St. Joseph's for several years and probably wouldn't want to be third choice at ISU. I just hope we're looking at somebody in the SF / PF position, and if given a choice, I'd opt for a "banger" over a slender defender like Nyamer Diew or Kiersten Johnson. We're presently assembled under a "power" rather than "speed" model, so we might as well continue down that road...
 

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I love Arianna Jackson and would love to see her start at the #2, with Hare coming off the bench for instant offense. I don't believe we can compete for a conference title with both Jackson and Hare starting. We need length, athleticism and rebounding to free Addy and cover for Audi's limitations.

Thank you for the info - do you have a premium membership at a different site or are you just great at web searches? I spent fifteen minutes this afternoon trying t find ANY info on visits by Ziegler and Kelsey Joens, coming up empty!

I expected Ziegler was a long shot - she's been "alpha" at St. Joseph's for several years and probably wouldn't want to be third choice at ISU. I just hope we're looking at somebody in the SF / PF position, and if given a choice, I'd opt for a "banger" over a slender defender like Nyamer Diew or Kiersten Johnson. We're presently assembled under a "power" rather than "speed" model, so we might as well continue down that road...
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Everyone you listed is looking for $200k + and are top 20 players in the portal…
LOL, somebody else can pick that tab up. I'm a fairly diehard ISU WBB fan, filling the lower bowl and 6 sections in the balcony isn't worth a $200,000 mercenary.
 
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Would you have taken 5' 6" Maya McDermot?

Or

5' 6" Rori Harmon
I don’t think this is about her height individually. I would rather see Jackson start and Hare come off the bench to avoid what they are saying.

Rori was the only starter for Texas under 6’.
 

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To the extent that rebounding is a concern for a group that small, I think it's worth sharing that Iowa State's defensive rebounding numbers last season were fantastic. It was a stat that really surprised me when I saw it, because it sometimes didn't feel that way.

Per Barttorvik, Iowa State's defensive rebounding percentage was #3 in the country (link), and in Big 12 play, it was #1 in the conference (link).

Ryan and Joens were good rebounders for guards, but Jada Williams actually had a defensive rebounding rate nearly identical to Joens's (despite being 5'6"). So, if the roster doesn't change, I think there would be a step back due to primarily Ryan's minutes getting replaced by a poorer rebounder. But a step back would constitute going from one of the several best in the country to merely being well above average.
 

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To the extent that rebounding is a concern for a group that small, I think it's worth sharing that Iowa State's defensive rebounding numbers last season were fantastic. It was a stat that really surprised me when I saw it, because it sometimes didn't feel that way.

Per Barttorvik, Iowa State's defensive rebounding percentage was #3 in the country (link), and in Big 12 play, it was #1 in the conference (link).

Ryan and Joens were good rebounders for guards, but Jada Williams actually had a defensive rebounding rate nearly identical to Joens's (despite being 5'6"). So, if the roster doesn't change, I think there would be a step back due to primarily Ryan's minutes getting replaced by a poorer rebounder. But a step back would constitute going from one of the several best in the country to merely being well above average.

Yea, IMO our bigger issue was offensive rebounds. Not sure what the exact stats were, but in games the ladies lost they struggled on the offensive boards. Seems like our staff makes it a point of emphasis to not crash the offensive boards and get defenders back.
 

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Yea, IMO our bigger issue was offensive rebounds. Not sure what the exact stats were, but in games the ladies lost they struggled on the offensive boards. Seems like our staff makes it a point of emphasis to not crash the offensive boards and get defenders back.

With Crooks, don't they have to play that way?
 
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Can't compete for the conference title with her starting. A 5-8, 5-9, 5-9 starting backcourt trio playing extended minutes isn't going to cut it.

I think you can because the league might be historically weak. Over the decades there was a Oklahoma and than Mulkey's Bears. Post-Mulkey it was Texas and Sooners again. Now it's just the "rest" and we are the best of that on paper. Now, whether a small lineup can compete in a Sweet Sixteen is something different.

Although that short of a lineup would not be ideal and I don't see that happening, at least not every game.
 
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With Crooks, don't they have to play that way?
I would agree with Crooks, but Kelsey was fast enough to try for a rebound before running back, hopefully Hare and Jada can do that too. I think Brown, Harris, and maybe Jackson (she did have an ankle injury most of the year) are too slow to try for a rebound and get back into defensive position.
 

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With Crooks, don't they have to play that way?

Probably, but foregoing the opportunity for offensive rebounds is foregoing chance to score. Another of the challenges over the off-season for the staff on either personnel or approach.
 

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I think ideally they would like to shoot a little higher percentage, thus limiting the number of opportunities for offensive rebounds. The one thing I cant figure out is on free throws why Addy would ever need to be the one to hang back.
 

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I think ideally they would like to shoot a little higher percentage, thus limiting the number of opportunities for offensive rebounds. The one thing I cant figure out is on free throws why Addy would ever need to be the one to hang back.
I think (but admittedly do not know) that Coach has Addy and Audi typically not rebound on freethrows by Iowa State because it gives them a chance to rest and catch their breaths for a few seconds and not have to run back after the freethrows. They can walk to the other end of the court and rest during the freethrows The chance of an offensive rebound on a freethrow is very remote.
 
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