US DOE - Fusion Ignition

I saw stories and tweets from people who sounded like they know what they’re talking about that predicted practical, energy-producing use ranging from within a decade to maybe by the turn of the century. I just want to know who’s right.
 
Is he demoing some of those in the Ukraine?
Not to best of my knowledge, although they would certainly be welcome there. The more snazzy tech they are keeping out of Ukraine, don't want the Russians to get their hands on it.

He was at a tradeshow in the Gulf, and the Azerbaijanis wanted a demo and were very interested. But he didn't think we'd ever sell to them, too much risk it would end up going straight to Moscow.
 
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I saw stories and tweets from people who sounded like they know what they’re talking about that predicted practical, energy-producing use ranging from within a decade to maybe by the turn of the century. I just want to know who’s right.

For Alliant's first 1 MW fusion generation facility in Iowa, I would set the over/under at 2065.
 
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Nailed it. Reality is there are technologies that could eliminate fossil CO2 emissions and they aren’t even horribly expensive. You can expect the typical pro-fossil fuel obstructionists, but there’s certainly a lot of throwing out the baby with the bathwater by environmental groups.

As I've shared in many of these types of posts, Energy Information Administration has published a ton of information for years on this, and right now a combination of non-dispatchable wind and solar with dispatchable biomass derived fuel to supplement when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining beats everything, including nuclear for cost. And the biomass derived fuel approaches are pretty simple technologies that can produce crudes that can also feed refiners to make fuel for hard to electrify vehicles in aviation and heavy industry. All while sequestering a hell of a lot more C than the direct air capture or C pipeline schemes.

ISU just published an article on the economics of the biomass side of this in Green Chemistry.
Can you link that article, pls? Curious about this, biomass has never seemed very realistic from what I've read, but I am admittedly NOT very well informed about it.
 
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Likely not significant for our lifetime or our children's, but I suppose significant as scientific discovery. Scaling this to a level that actually makes a tangible difference in the world is still far far far away. They needed a facility 5 football fields in size to produce energy for a sliver of a second. I'm not holding my breath that this will ever amount to anything that matters
 
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It's a positive thing if people want to learn more about the world. People used to praise that, look up to their grandpa who always seemed to know a little about how everything works. Now that level of curiosity and desire to know more about the ways of the world is mocked. "You don't need to learn about that, leave it to the experts".

I agree but it's more than curiosity. To many people think they are experts because they read something on the internet or heard something.
 
I agree but it's more than curiosity. To many people think they are experts because they read something on the internet or heard something.
What do you do when two experts on a subject have completely different opinions on it? Looks into it yourself is what you'll do.
 
Mega Watt.

As a comparison, Alliant has a gas plant in Marshalltown rated at 700 MW. Maybe I should have checked that before settling on ONE MW for the over under.

Fun fact, to travel back in time you need 1,210 Mega Watts.
"What the hell is a gigawatt"
 
You are missing my point completely.

Read the board and you'll see numerous people who aren't Attorney's, Dr's or whatever that think they know more than those people. That was my point.
Good, question everything. I don't mind people questioning my profession. You've never critiqued a coach before? Are you a college coach? Everyone capable of independent thought at some point questions an expert about something. That's good.
 
Isn’t the tipping point the minute it self sustains a wild change in efficiency though? wildly inefficient until it breaks a certain point and becomes most efficient energy ever instantly?

Could it be 100 years away?
Well...no. They shoot a target, create the reaction, then they try a different target completely unconnected to the first.


So while they have achieved gain, they don't have even the beginning of a process that would sustain itself.

But gain is possible, so now it's just figuring everything else out, which may be more or less research then has already been done already if it ever proves to be possible at all to get power from it.

But gain is possible....
 
From an associate that at least I consider knowledgeable in this topic:

'For the last 4 decades fusion power has been 2-3 decades away from a reality. This development actually makes that true now.' (the 2-3 decades away part)
 
I don't care if this will never be viable in my lifetime, we as a human race need to continue to advance this technology. It's always been possible, but it's always been about the money.
 
Sounds like a job for a Material Science engineer to contain this fusion. My son is finishing his first semester at ISU today in this field. I'm guessing he will be the guy. ;)
 
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We need to create a collective for the "CF University Fighting Fanatics".
Credentialing, certificates to hang on our walls, etc. Probably should add "aviation expertise (coaching searches) and "textile experts" for jersey insights....oh, and graphic design for uniform input. We will all be true renaissance Fighting Fanatics